From: Marin Condic <condicma@bogon.pwfl.com>
To: Mike Silva <mjsilva@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Compiler for Z80/6510
Date: 1999/11/29
Date: 1999-11-29T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3842E10D.5AE759FE@pwfl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: uQA04.117$ji4.20324@news.wenet.net
Mike Silva wrote:
> where Ada, it seems to me, has an excellent chance to be "rehabilitated" as
> the percentage of embedded systems that go 32-bit will just continue to
> climb. IMHO, Ada on cheap 32-bit hardware is an embedded designer's dream
> come true -- it's just tooooo delicious!
Agreed and very true. Anyone who has ever tried to squeeze software into a tiny
address space can understand why 32 bit hardware is a very welcome gift to the
software designer.
I would point out that there still may be lots of reasons why the 16 bit
processors will continue to have a large segment of the market. Not all
applications need the power or space of a 32 bit architecture, so you are at
risk of overdesigning. (The proverbial Brick Outhouse) If there is any cost
differential at all, this becomes significant over a large production run. So
long as a 16 bit controller can be built for even a few cents less than a 32 bit
controller, there is an advantage to going this route. (True also of the 8 bit
world vs 16 bit, which is why they are still with us.)
You also have a lot of compatibility issues which may come into play. Just
because you can build a bigger, faster, better 32 bit computer doesn't mean it
will plug into the slot where you previously had a 16 bit machine. Do you
redesign the automobile, industrial robot, radar controller, etc., to use a 32
bit processor if the 16 bit machine can still do the job?
To go in your direction, how about this? Produce a PowerPC based circuit board
with a few A/D and/or F/D converters, some discrete lines, maybe a UART and some
other stuff that would make it a good controller and bundle that with an Ada
compiler, link/load/diagnostic tools, etc. all plugged into a PC for
development. Think that could be done for ~ $500? What do you imagine the
minimum production price of a PowerPC based SBC could be in some reasonable
volume?
MDC
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-11-24 0:00 Compiler for Z80/6510 Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-24 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-11-24 0:00 ` Frank Klemm
1999-11-24 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-24 0:00 ` Wil
1999-11-25 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-25 0:00 ` Peter Milliken
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-02 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-12-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-13 0:00 ` carr_tom
1999-12-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
1999-11-27 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-11-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <01bf38cb$be9b2b60$022a6282@dieppe>
1999-11-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-28 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-30 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-12-06 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-28 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Marin Condic [this message]
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-11-29 0:00 ` John Duncan
1999-11-30 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-30 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-29 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-12-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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