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From: "Robert I. Eachus" <eachus@mitre.org>
Subject: Re: Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla)
Date: 1999/11/12
Date: 1999-11-12T20:00:07+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <382C732C.8B2C2818@mitre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3829D562.5F102A83@callnetuk.com

Nick Roberts wrote:
  
> And, as a corollary, customers need to be educated into rejecting
> software with a 'bug' in it just as diligently as they would reject any
> other product with a defect.
> 
> It would help for our respective governments (UK, US, and elsewhere) to
> produce some (not too heavy) legislation to assist in this (e.g.
> outlawing some of the more outrageous evasions of liability in typical
> software licences). Sadly, however, I think our politicians have
> undergone a physical adaptation to their habitat (whereby the brain is
> replaced by an air sac, for the more efficient generation of hot air).

   Of course, any such well meaning legislation, if framed too broadly,
would do much more harm than good.  There are large categories of
software where applying techniques appropriate to saftey-critical
real-time software would make products unaffordably expensive.  But more
important there is a class of software where Godel's Proof guarentees
that there is at least one bug--like compilers--or where Post's
Correspondence Problem prevents proof of compliance with a particular
set of requirements.

   And then there are other problems, like the halting problem, where it
is possible to provide a useful implementation, but it is not possible
to provide a correct implementation of the requirements.

-- 

                                        Robert I. Eachus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-11-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-10-23  0:00 Ammo-zilla Stanley R. Allen
1999-10-24  0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00   ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-24  0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-24  0:00   ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-25  0:00       ` Ammo-zilla Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-28  0:00       ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-31  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-01  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Laurent Guerby
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-29  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-29  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla mike
1999-10-29  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-31  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                       ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Ammo-zilla Wes Groleau
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Geoff Bull
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-30  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00                   ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Gnat IDE (was: Garbage colletion) Ted Dennison
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                           ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` David Starner
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ada and GC. Was: Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                           ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-03  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                               ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-01  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                       ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                           ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-03  0:00                             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-06  0:00                                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                     ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09  0:00                                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-10  0:00                                         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-11-12  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12  0:00                                             ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
1999-11-12  0:00                                               ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-12  0:00                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` Ada GC (was Ammo-zilla) Nick Roberts
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-30  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-30  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-31  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ada and GC (Was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-29  0:00               ` David Botton
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-30  0:00                   ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-10-30  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-10-29  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla mitch
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-31  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
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