From: "Samuel T. Harris" <sam_harris@hso.link.com>
Subject: Re: Ada and GC (Was Re: Ammo-zilla)
Date: 1999/10/30
Date: 1999-10-30T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <381B7AA0.65DDACE5@hso.link.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: s1ml8a2fiqi80@corp.supernews.com
Vladimir Olensky wrote:
>
> David Botton wrote in message <7vc3v5$1888$1@news.gate.net>...
> >I have found many times that GC can be unacceptable do to unpredictable
> >delays even on non-embedded, real-time and safety critical systems. Go
> >explain to a power user of large Java programs why they have to
> occasionally
> >wait to regain usable control of the application do to GC crunching. (I
> >believe this had a part in the demise of Corel's Java Office Suite. Applix
> >just uses Java like an X terminal and does the real work off site.)
>
> That's why I wrote that Java GC is not a good "hint" for user controlled GC
> and M3 GC is much better in that respect.
>
> My view is that all objects by default should be UNTRACED.
> Only those objects that are subjected to GC should be marked
> as TRACED. This approach is opposite to what is done in Modula-3
> but it gives full control to the programmer over GC and it also provides
> compatibility with the current Ada 95 implementations
>
> All the traced objects should be allocated in separate storage pool
> controlled
> by GC pool storage manager that could provide all needed operations for user
> to control GC process.
Why not package up this GC as an Ada 95 storage pool and simply
associate
it to the access types which need GC? With the inclusion of the storage
pool
concept in Ada 95, I don't see this "to GC or not to GC" within Ada
itself
as being a _very_ important issue.
>
> I was pleased very much by the nice Tucker Taft post regarding this
> issue.
> Now I have a feeling that this issue has grown up and we may expect some
> progress in this area soon.
>
> Regards,
> Vladimir Olensky
--
Samuel T. Harris, Principal Engineer
Raytheon, Scientific and Technical Systems
"If you can make it, We can fake it!"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-10-30 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-10-23 0:00 Ammo-zilla Stanley R. Allen
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla mitch
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Laurent Guerby
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla mike
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Wes Groleau
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Geoff Bull
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Gnat IDE (was: Garbage colletion) Ted Dennison
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-04 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ada and GC. Was: Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-06 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Ada GC (was Ammo-zilla) Nick Roberts
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ada and GC (Was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-29 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris [this message]
1999-10-30 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-28 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-25 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-10-24 0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
replies disabled
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox