* Re: ASSET's New Catalog Listings (14-OCT-94)
1994-10-19 17:21 ` Erik Naggum
@ 1994-10-19 19:43 ` David Weller
1994-10-20 13:14 ` Erik Naggum
1994-10-21 20:54 ` david s. grieve
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Weller @ 1994-10-19 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <19941019T172107Z.enag@ifi.uio.no>,
Erik Naggum <SGML@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>[info@source.asset.com]
>| The STARS ASSET Reuse Library has recently added the following new
>| assets or new versions of existing assets. You need to have an account
>| with ASSET in order to access these new documents and software. More
>| information about ASSET, acquiring an account, and a hyper-text catalog
>| of our holdings can be found at the URL "http://source.asset.com/".
>| Information can also be obtained by sending email to
>| "info@source.asset.com", FAXing to (304) 594-3951, or calling
>| (304)-594-3954.
>
>this does not belong in all the newsgroups it has stupidly been posted to.
>if the "documents and software" had been freely accessible to all the
>people who receive this marketing nonsense, I would not have objected, but
>when you abuse the network goodwill to push your products, I sure hope
>nobody out there will consider calling you except to yell unpleasant things
>at the dweeb who decided to post this. as is typical with such things,
>however, there is no named person to hold responsible for this nonsense,
>further indicating that they _know_ they are guilty.
>
You spoke too soon, Erik. ASSET is a free resource. It's just what
happens when the US government runs a software repository -- they
want to be able to "Carefully" track all access to the system, so
they require you to fetch everything after logging in with an
authorized account. So, I guess you could say the US government is
guilty :-)
(I'm sure if I've misspoke, somebody from ASSET will correct me).
>--
>Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO is the answer.
The one _correct_ part of your post! :-)
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* Re: ASSET's New Catalog Listings (14-OCT-94)
1994-10-19 17:21 ` Erik Naggum
1994-10-19 19:43 ` David Weller
@ 1994-10-20 13:14 ` Erik Naggum
1994-10-21 20:54 ` david s. grieve
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Erik Naggum @ 1994-10-20 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
[info@source.asset.com]
| The STARS ASSET Reuse Library has recently added the following new
| assets or new versions of existing assets. You need to have an account
| with ASSET in order to access these new documents and software. More
| information about ASSET, acquiring an account, and a hyper-text catalog
| of our holdings can be found at the URL "http://source.asset.com/".
| Information can also be obtained by sending email to
| "info@source.asset.com", FAXing to (304) 594-3951, or calling
| (304)-594-3954.
[Erik Naggum]
| this does not belong in all the newsgroups it has stupidly been posted to.
|
| if the "documents and software" had been freely accessible to all the
| people who receive this marketing nonsense, I would not have objected,
| but when you abuse the network goodwill to push your products, I sure
| hope nobody out there will consider calling you except to yell
| unpleasant things at the dweeb who decided to post this. as is typical
| with such things, however, there is no named person to hold responsible
| for this nonsense, further indicating that they _know_ they are guilty.
strong words backfire forcefully.
I have learned that ASSET's material is available free of charge, but that
they want tight control over access to it (or something), and "you need to
have an account with ASSET", "acquiring an account" and "our holdings" did
not, as I was certain it did, imply commercial operation. (I still think
those terms quite strongly convey commercial operation, though.)
may I suggest a rewording to more specifically provide the conditions for
getting an account? also, a name of a real person is always very helpful.
I'm not sure all the newsgroups that receive this have equal use for it,
though. in the past half-dozen "catalog listings", I have not found much
material specifically useful to comp.text.sgml, anyway.
apologies to ASSET. I'm sure they do a good job.
#<Erik>
--
Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO is the answer.
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* Re: ASSET's New Catalog Listings (14-OCT-94)
1994-10-19 17:21 ` Erik Naggum
1994-10-19 19:43 ` David Weller
1994-10-20 13:14 ` Erik Naggum
@ 1994-10-21 20:54 ` david s. grieve
1994-10-24 10:19 ` David Emery
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: david s. grieve @ 1994-10-21 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <19941019T172107Z.enag@ifi.uio.no>, Erik Naggum <SGML@ifi.uio.no> writes:
|> [info@source.asset.com]
|>
|> | The STARS ASSET Reuse Library has recently added the following new
|> | assets or new versions of existing assets. You need to have an account
|> | with ASSET in order to access these new documents and software. More
|> | information about ASSET, acquiring an account, and a hyper-text catalog
|> | of our holdings can be found at the URL "http://source.asset.com/".
|> | Information can also be obtained by sending email to
|> | "info@source.asset.com", FAXing to (304) 594-3951, or calling
|> | (304)-594-3954.
|>
|> this does not belong in all the newsgroups it has stupidly been posted to.
|>
|> if the "documents and software" had been freely accessible to all the
|> people who receive this marketing nonsense, I would not have objected, but
|> when you abuse the network goodwill to push your products, I sure hope
|> nobody out there will consider calling you except to yell unpleasant things
|> at the dweeb who decided to post this. as is typical with such things,
|> however, there is no named person to hold responsible for this nonsense,
|> further indicating that they _know_ they are guilty.
|>
|> #<Erik>
|> --
Just a quick FYI:
STARS stands for "Software Technology for Adaptable, Reliable Systems"
and is a DARPA (i.e., your tax dollars at work) sponsored program. The
objective of the STARS program is to increase software productivity,
reliability and quality by creating a software engineering enviornment
(both tools and processes) that promote and facilitate software reuse.
The STARS program is a leader in research and development in the area
of megaprogramming and software reuse.
I missed the original post but I don't see any mention of "products"
in the STARS clip. Further, the original post should be of general
interest to developers and software engineers. I think Eric's flame
is misdirected and I hope people _do_ check out what is available in
the STARS ASSET catalog.
By the by, I am in no way affiliated with the STARS program. I am
just familiar with some of their work.
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* Re: ASSET's New Catalog Listings (14-OCT-94)
1994-10-21 20:54 ` david s. grieve
@ 1994-10-24 10:19 ` David Emery
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Emery @ 1994-10-24 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
David S. Grieve writes, in response to a posting by Erik Naggum:
>STARS stands for "Software Technology for Adaptable, Reliable Systems"
>and is a DARPA (i.e., your tax dollars at work) sponsored program.
Considering that Erik is from Norway, I don't think that STARS can be
accused of spending HIS tax dollars....
Let's not assume that everyone involved with software, Ada, etc. is a
U.S. taxpayer...
dave
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