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From: Wes Groleau <wwgrol@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: Loss of Mars Climate Orbiter due to units of measurment conflicts
Date: 1999/10/25
Date: 1999-10-25T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38147CE3.58E830CE@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 45E616E47678A955.512ED5E48B14AC8E.6A1F8C699390892F@lp.airnews.net


> > > |While I am personally in favor of the SI, I must insist that the
> > > |"fundamental constants" are rendered in whatever units the renderer
> > > |chooses.  I was taught in high school that G = 32.2 ft / sec**2
> >
> > Yes, but I was rebutting a post that claimed the reason for using SI is
> > because "that's what the fundamental constants are rendered in."
> 
> Actually, you can't "choose" what units the fundamental constants
> are in.  They are decided on by an international body and the method
> of measurement, the units used, the accuracy, etc are all part of
> the published value.  You wouldn't expect to have "Wes' Own Ada"
> would you? What made Ada was decided upon by a large body after
> much consultation.  Of course you can convert from SI to Imperial
> but I'll stand by my original statement.  Fundamental constants
> are published in SI units, not some other units of convenience.

So, in the above scenario, the international body is the renderer that
_chose_ to publish them in SI.  Other renderers may have chosen (as did
the author of my high school physics text) to render them in other
units.

I encourage SI--but the fact that someone used it somewhere to publish
an "official" approximation for the speed of light or Avogadro's
constant*
is not a good argument for using SI

* Ever notice that Ada 95 Quality and Style contains two different
values 
  for Avogadro's constant?  (See 3.1.2 and 3.2.6)  Notice that neither
  mentions units, nor matches the 1998 CODATA value?




      parent reply	other threads:[~1999-10-25  0:00 UTC|newest]

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1999-10-12  0:00             ` Loss of Mars Climate Orbiter due to units of measurment conflicts Richard D Riehle
1999-10-12  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
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1999-10-14  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-14  0:00         ` Fraser Wilson
1999-10-21  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-10-21  0:00           ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-21  0:00             ` Ehud Lamm
1999-10-21  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-22  0:00                 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-10-24  0:00             ` Robert B. Love 
1999-10-25  0:00               ` Loss of Mars Climate Orbiter due to units of measurment conf Wilhelm Spickermann
1999-10-25  0:00                 ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-25  0:00                   ` Gisle S�lensminde
1999-10-25  0:00                     ` Keith Thompson
1999-10-25  0:00                       ` Bryce Bardin
1999-10-25  0:00               ` Wes Groleau [this message]
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