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From: Gautier <Gautier.deMontmollin@Maths.UniNe.CH>
Subject: Re: Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.
Date: 1999/09/29
Date: 1999-09-29T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37F25273.298DCBD6@Maths.UniNe.CH> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 37F22BB1.F3524D60@icn.siemens.de

> But - is it really necessary to include e.g. all tasking stuff in simple
> applications ?

I share your point of view. Now the cost of hard disk space is low,
but the single KB spared has important implications in terms of speed
with cached memory processor.

> I for myself prefer tools that links only the really
> needed parts together.

At least the Janus (RR Software) linkers do unused code trimming:
it selects only used parts in each module.
Note that this can be done only with strongly modular languages
like Ada or Borland Pascals.
A C linker will put together the entire object code files with
needed and unneeded parts...
Since GNAT uses a _C_ linker, this may be why your .exe is so big!
[or aren't you using GNAT ?]
But GNAT 3.11+ provides a source-level trimming tool (gnatelim)...
Don't forget to strip the debug info, too.

> Fifteen years ago I already heared from Ada
> vendors that the code _must_ be bigger and slower because Ada is a
> powerful language. Maybe this is the reason why many people prefer "C".

Nowadays you can have powerful language _and_ speed (BTW for me speed
is a necessary condition of computing power)...

-- 
Gautier

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-29  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-09-27  0:00 Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses the middleman
1999-09-27  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-27  0:00 ` J. David Bryan
1999-09-27  0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ray Blaak
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Simon Wright
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00         ` Pragma (was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.) Preben Randhol
1999-09-30  0:00           ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses p.obry
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00           ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` GNAT listing file default names (was: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses) Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-28  0:00       ` David Botton
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Gautier [this message]
1999-09-29  0:00               ` Ed Falis
1999-09-29  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00                 ` tmoran
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-09-30  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                       ` <7t2e1l$lqt2@ftp.kvaerner.com>
     [not found]                         ` <37F91D6E.58685CFE@mitre.org>
     [not found]                           ` <7tf7uo$h2b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
     [not found]                             ` <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
1999-10-18  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-19  0:00                                 ` Code size of Ada ? Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]                           ` <7tf7uo <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
     [not found]                             ` <5OkO3.2$1e.659@typhoon.nyu.edu>
1999-10-19  0:00                               ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00             ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Gautier
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00   ` the middleman
1999-09-27  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-09-27  0:00   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00         ` bill
1999-09-27  0:00           ` Aidan Skinner
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-09-29  0:00   ` the middleman
1999-09-29  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1999-09-28  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
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