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From: "John R. Strohm" <strohm@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Engineers Pay
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:56:35 -0600
Date: 2003-01-22T11:56:35-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37D912932E90A61F.32CBD8CB0BE633BF.43209476713680BD@lp.airnews.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: hub1g-vu3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com

"Dennis Lee Bieber" <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:hub1g-vu3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com...
> Kevin Cline fed this fish to the penguins on Monday 20 January 2003
> 11:12 pm:
>
> > and administrative personell.  USD $250K or $USD 1000 per day
> > is about what the company would charge for the engineer's time.
> >
>         If I recall from attendance at the financial portion of a few
design
> reviews, a number in the range of US$130 per hour was quoted for the
> individuals directly involved (coders, testers, engineers -- but not
> general management) in the project. Of that amount, less than US$50
> went to my salary ($45/hour); the rest was used to pay for my cubicle,
> supplies (printer supplies), and clerical labor (travel office,
> secretarial support).

Assuming for the sake of argument that this was a defense contractor, you
also need to bear in mind that the government audits those numbers.  There
is a certain profit margin built in, and the government allows for that,
but, if the margin is excessive, they can (and do) renegotiate it down.

Summary: those numbers, for salary, cubicle, supplies, and support, have to
be strongly based in reality.

What THAT means is that you, the engineer, really do cost the company about
that much.  The company makes it back by selling your labor, with the other
charges rolled in, and a little left over for profit.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-22 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-03 15:57 advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula karl bowl
2003-01-04  2:36 ` Adrian Knoth
2003-01-04 23:12   ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-05  2:56     ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-05  3:54       ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-06  5:55         ` AG
2003-01-05  9:38           ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-06  1:37             ` advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula or oberon was " Robert C. Leif
2003-01-04  2:56 ` Steve
2003-01-04 11:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-04 17:35     ` Steve
2003-01-04 22:16       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-05 14:12       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-04 12:17 ` Gautier
2003-01-04 17:12 ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-04 18:16   ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-05 11:47   ` karl bowl
2003-01-05 18:53     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 20:38       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-05 21:03         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 21:20           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-05 21:31             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 21:47               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-06 14:43                 ` Gautier
2003-01-06 16:21                   ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 22:57             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-06 21:57           ` karl bowl
2003-01-18 14:14     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-18 15:26       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-19 18:10         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-19 23:42           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-21 19:16           ` Robert A Duff
2003-01-18 21:39       ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-18 21:56         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-18 23:08           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-18 23:16           ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19  3:36             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-19  4:47               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-19  5:47               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19  5:50               ` Steve
2003-01-19  4:47             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-19  5:51               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19 12:51                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-19 16:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 23:26                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-21 13:45                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19  6:10             ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-19 18:03               ` Bernd Specht
2003-01-19 16:31             ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 12:17         ` Engineers Pay Alan and Carmel Brain
2003-01-21  7:12           ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-21  9:14             ` John R. Strohm
     [not found]             ` <hub1g-vu3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-01-22  4:11               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-22 17:56               ` John R. Strohm [this message]
2003-01-19 16:19         ` advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 19:08           ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-19 20:26           ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-01-20  8:22             ` Tor Fredrik Aas
2003-01-21 14:00             ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 18:22         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-20 10:35         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-20 21:12           ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-20 15:56       ` karl bowl
2003-01-20 17:39         ` Jerry Petrey
2003-01-20 22:47         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-21 14:55           ` Stephen Leake
2003-01-21 21:55             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-23 17:06               ` Stephen Leake
2003-01-27  4:25                 ` AG
2003-01-26 17:11                   ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-21 17:23           ` karl bowl
2003-01-21 21:47             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 12:42   ` Gautier
2003-01-05 18:58     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 22:28       ` tmoran
2003-01-06 20:33         ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 14:47           ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-07 18:56             ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-08  9:43               ` Alfred Hilscher
     [not found] ` <mji5va.994.ln@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-01-04 22:16   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-07 18:14 ` Martin Klaiber
2003-01-08  9:01   ` Gautier
2003-01-08 11:13     ` Martin Klaiber
2003-01-08 17:25       ` Gautier
2003-01-08 17:52         ` Martin Klaiber
2003-01-10  3:07 ` Richard Riehle
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