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From: Andy Askey <askeya@res.raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: Kindness
Date: 1999/09/03
Date: 1999-09-04T02:00:53+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37D01A39.F05FF3F4@res.raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7qn419$cj4$1@nnrp1.deja.com

I haven't followed all the posts in this thread, but I just can't help
but put in my opinion here.

Suppose the poster was a student attempting to get the answer to some
assigned question.  So what?  What is the difference if a student reads
the answer in a book, a man page, or from a newsgroup?  The goal of the
student (and the teacher, I hope) is that the student learns from the
homework.  One thing I find lacking in the education system of today is
that it does not prepare a graduate for the working world.  Once a
student becomes a member of some Software Engineering department, he/she
will loose points for wasting time figuring out something that is
available by questioning an experience coworker.  Part of the
educational process should be to teach how to complete a task in the
most efficient manner.  No one ever got a promoting rediscovering
something that is common knowledge through the industry.  But plenty
succeed by applying the knowledge of others to develop new ideas.

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Robert Dewar wrote:
> 
> In article <1999Sep2.074353.1@eisner>,
>   Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam wrote:
> > One possible reason would be that the post appeared to be
> someone who
> > was attempting to do "homework via newsgroups".  This annoys
> two classes
> > of people:
> >
> >       1) Instructors who expect students to do their own work
> >
> >       2) Former students who did their own work back in the
> >          good old days
> >
> > At least once in this group the instructor who noticed the
> > post was actually the instructor who had assigned that problem
> > to that student.
> 
> Actually for me this misses the point, sure you may annoy the
> above two classes of people, but the important thing is that
> you are being very unfair to the student in this case, since
> it is very damaging for students to get in the habit of letting
> others do their work. They may not realize it at the time, but
> later on, they will regret it, and it is not a good idea to be
> an accomplice in this sequence of events :-)
> 
> That being said, you can often suggest something that will help
> the student help themselves, and then everyone wins.
> 
> Robert De
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.




  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-03  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-08-31  0:00 Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-02  0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03  0:00   ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-03  0:00     ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03  0:00       ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness tmoran
1999-09-03  0:00           ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-04  0:00           ` Eight Queens problem (was Re: Kindness) Daryle Walker
1999-09-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-14  0:00               ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-06  0:00             ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-09-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-07  0:00                 ` bourguet
1999-09-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08  0:00                     ` bourguet
1999-09-08  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
     [not found]         ` <37D55622.69B27515@rational.com>
1999-09-07  0:00           ` Homework " Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-08  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-08  0:00           ` Homework Mark Lundquist
1999-09-03  0:00     ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03  0:00       ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-06  0:00           ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-06  0:00             ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07  0:00             ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-07  0:00               ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-04  0:00           ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-06  0:00       ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-05  0:00         ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-02  0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03  0:00   ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03  0:00     ` Andy Askey [this message]
1999-09-05  0:00       ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07  0:00         ` Kindness Andy Askey
1999-09-07  0:00           ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-02  0:00 ` Kindness Jerry Petrey
1999-09-02  0:00   ` Kindness Nick Roberts
1999-09-03  0:00 ` Kindness Matthew Heaney
1999-09-09  0:00   ` Kindness James William Zuercher
1999-09-10  0:00     ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-10  0:00     ` Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-10  0:00       ` Kindness Robert Dewar
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