From: Andy Askey <askeya@res.raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: Kindness
Date: 1999/09/03
Date: 1999-09-04T02:00:53+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <37D01A39.F05FF3F4@res.raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7qn419$cj4$1@nnrp1.deja.com
I haven't followed all the posts in this thread, but I just can't help
but put in my opinion here.
Suppose the poster was a student attempting to get the answer to some
assigned question. So what? What is the difference if a student reads
the answer in a book, a man page, or from a newsgroup? The goal of the
student (and the teacher, I hope) is that the student learns from the
homework. One thing I find lacking in the education system of today is
that it does not prepare a graduate for the working world. Once a
student becomes a member of some Software Engineering department, he/she
will loose points for wasting time figuring out something that is
available by questioning an experience coworker. Part of the
educational process should be to teach how to complete a task in the
most efficient manner. No one ever got a promoting rediscovering
something that is common knowledge through the industry. But plenty
succeed by applying the knowledge of others to develop new ideas.
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Robert Dewar wrote:
>
> In article <1999Sep2.074353.1@eisner>,
> Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam wrote:
> > One possible reason would be that the post appeared to be
> someone who
> > was attempting to do "homework via newsgroups". This annoys
> two classes
> > of people:
> >
> > 1) Instructors who expect students to do their own work
> >
> > 2) Former students who did their own work back in the
> > good old days
> >
> > At least once in this group the instructor who noticed the
> > post was actually the instructor who had assigned that problem
> > to that student.
>
> Actually for me this misses the point, sure you may annoy the
> above two classes of people, but the important thing is that
> you are being very unfair to the student in this case, since
> it is very damaging for students to get in the habit of letting
> others do their work. They may not realize it at the time, but
> later on, they will regret it, and it is not a good idea to be
> an accomplice in this sequence of events :-)
>
> That being said, you can often suggest something that will help
> the student help themselves, and then everyone wins.
>
> Robert De
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-08-31 0:00 Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness tmoran
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-04 0:00 ` Eight Queens problem (was Re: Kindness) Daryle Walker
1999-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-14 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-07 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
[not found] ` <37D55622.69B27515@rational.com>
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Homework " Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Homework Mark Lundquist
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-04 0:00 ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-05 0:00 ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Andy Askey [this message]
1999-09-05 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Andy Askey
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Jerry Petrey
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Nick Roberts
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Matthew Heaney
1999-09-09 0:00 ` Kindness James William Zuercher
1999-09-10 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-10 0:00 ` Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-10 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
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