From: Marin David Condic <condicma@bogon.pwfl.com>
Subject: Re: Kindness
Date: 1999/09/03
Date: 1999-09-03T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <37CFF7DC.CFF9717C@pwfl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 37CF0FE0.2B299477@acenet.com.au
Geoff Bull wrote:
> Marin David Condic wrote:
> >
> >Things that smell of students trying to get there homework
> >done for them generally deserve some sort of "rude" scolding.
>
> I think you're all being a bit precious.
"Precious"??? That doesn't translate well. :-) Makes me think I'm a
veritable gold mine of wisdom.
>
> Getting some help via the net is just another part of
> the educational experience.
>
I guess the traditional way of housebreaking a dog is to catch it when
it pees on the carpet, stick its nose in it and swat it with a newspaper
while expressing firm displeasure. Maybe we could view peeing on the
carpet as just another part of the dog's educational experience. One
method produces a housebroken dog. The other method produces an
untrained, undomesticated, unmanageable, wild animal - and a house that
smells bad. :-)
"Help" is one thing. "Do my homework for me" is another thing
altogether.
>
> Lighten up!
>
Given that we don't have an actual case in front of us, perhaps we are
taking it a bit too seriously. But I think that the education of the
next generation of people who will be running the world when I retire is
a pretty important mission. Letting students think that academic fraud,
intellectual dishonesty, theft and other assorted high crimes and
misdemeanors are all just "part of the game" and are not "wrong" so long
as you can get away with it is probably a bad idea. It breeds the notion
that lying and cheating in other areas of life is O.K. - depending on
what the definition of "is" is!
>
> Geoff
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-08-31 0:00 Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness tmoran
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-04 0:00 ` Eight Queens problem (was Re: Kindness) Daryle Walker
1999-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-14 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-07 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
[not found] ` <37D55622.69B27515@rational.com>
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Homework " Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-08 0:00 ` Homework Mark Lundquist
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-04 0:00 ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-06 0:00 ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-05 0:00 ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Jerry Petrey
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Nick Roberts
1999-09-02 0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Andy Askey
1999-09-05 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Andy Askey
1999-09-07 0:00 ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-03 0:00 ` Kindness Matthew Heaney
1999-09-09 0:00 ` Kindness James William Zuercher
1999-09-10 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-10 0:00 ` Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-10 0:00 ` Kindness Robert Dewar
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