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From: pitchl@tdbank.ca (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: How many different processors do you use?
Date: 1999/06/25
Date: 1999-06-25T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37739338.761297047@news.bellglobal.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7l02ro$52i$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Could not the "Defense Contractor" billing mindset also figure into this?
Since Ada was/is the required language for DOD work, it might suffer from
the same inflationary pricing that introduced multi-hundred dollar toilet seats
to the DOD.

On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:14:29 GMT, Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:

>In article <ouf0k7.oe.ln@bigbird.sw.asiainfo.com>,
>  markh@usai.asiainfo.com wrote:
>> So, a vendor which was charging $2000 per seat (list
>> price) for a C compiler was at the same time charging
>> $10,000 per seat for the equivalent Ada system.
>> You could argue that the Ada system did 5 times more
>> than the C system, but the impression I got was that
>> they charged more simply because they felt they could,
>> and that other vendors would pay since they would
>> consider it as a necessary cost of doing business
>> with the government.
>
>Much more likely was that the market for C was much greater
>than the market for Ada. That clearly gets reflected in the
>price. There are often also considerably different levels of
>support involved.
>
>Think about televisions, I can buy a very nice 25" television
>for $250 these days, but if I want a monitor of similar size
>for a computer, they cost a lot more. Better quality? Well
>that's part of it, but mostly there are far more 25" television
>sets in the world than large screen computer monitors.
>
>In the case of software the manufacturing cost is very low,
>so everything comes down to volume and support requirements.
>
>There is also the general issue of trying to guess the
>elasticity of the market. Some Ada vendors tried the low cost
>product approach, but in Ada 83 days at least, this was not
>very successful.
>
>
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>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

(pitchl@tdbank.ca)


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)




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1999-06-08  0:00         ` How many different processors do you use? muddy_buddy
1999-06-08  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00             ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-06-10  0:00                         ` Robert B. Love 
1999-06-11  0:00                           ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` rawcswi
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` rawcswi
1999-06-20  0:00                       ` Eric Roesinger
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Something doesn't compute here (was Re: How many different processors do you use?) David Kristola
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Jerry Petrey
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Jim Prince
1999-06-12  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Elizabeth D Rather
1999-06-09  0:00           ` How many different processors do you use? Matt Cox
1999-06-09  0:00           ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00               ` dennison
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ed Avis
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ada95 (was: How many different processors do you use?) Markus Kuhn
1999-06-10  0:00               ` How many different processors do you use? John Kodis
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` martin lytz
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Fraser Wilson
     [not found]                     ` <7jpb1e$ic8$1@remarq.com>
1999-06-11  0:00                       ` fraser
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-11  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                 ` Dave Hansen
1999-06-11  0:00                   ` martin lytz
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Roger Espel Llima
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-12  0:00               ` mjsilva
1999-06-14  0:00                 ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-25  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-26  0:00                     ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00               ` markh
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-13  0:00                   ` markh
1999-06-25  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-25  0:00                       ` Lew Pitcher [this message]
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-29  0:00                               ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-29  0:00                                 ` Richard Kettlewell
1999-06-30  0:00                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-07-08  0:00                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-07-09  0:00                                       ` no-one
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Dan Nagle
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Greg Martin
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