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From: "Robert I. Eachus" <eachus@mitre.org>
Subject: Re: Ada and Java. different behaviour. casting long to int problem.
Date: 1999/06/17
Date: 1999-06-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37694942.2C87628A@mitre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3766650F.705125B7@pwfl.com

Marin David Condic wrote:
>                                 If one wants wraparound semantics, then
> perhaps there should be a special type to support that behavior - a la
> modular types in Ada. (Although these don't contain negative numbers and
> that may be a requirement.) In some cases, saturation semantics are a
> good thing, but again, this is not the "normal" understanding of
> arithmetic and therefore should be supported by a special type.
 
      Interesting question, but far from this topic...  If you want a
type with negative numbers that wraps around in Ada, how do you do it? 
Pragma Suppress is the easiest solution, but it is not guarenteed to
work portably, or even to work at all.  You can derive a type from a
modular type and override the comparison operators, etc.  This is
probably the best route.  The cleanest way from a users point of view is
probably to derive from Integer and override the arithmetic operations. 
This does have the problem with reemergence of the predefined operators
(see RM 12.5(8)) in a generic when one of these types is passed as a
generic formal integer type rather than a generic formal derived type.  
However, I think that this is probably the right behavior--let the
author of the generic worry about overflow inside the generic.  If you
want to use the redefined operators, you can always pass them as genric
formal subprograms.

      To bring this discussion back on topic, probably the best solution
for compilers that want to interface cleanly with Java, is to provide an
Interfaces.Java package, with an explicitly non-standard integer type
that can be converted to and from an Ada integer type.

-- 

                                        Robert I. Eachus

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1999-06-12  0:00 Ada and Java. different behaviour. casting long to int problem nabbasi
1999-06-12  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-12  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-12  0:00     ` kirck
1999-06-13  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00         ` Fred
1999-06-14  0:00           ` Mark Hood
1999-06-15  0:00             ` mike
1999-06-15  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-15  0:00                 ` Mike Silva
1999-06-15  0:00                   ` rich
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` tmoran
1999-06-15  0:00                       ` David Botton
1999-06-16  0:00                       ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-16  0:00                       ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-15  0:00                       ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-15  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` bill
1999-06-16  0:00                             ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-16  0:00                               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-06-17  0:00                               ` Chris Dollin
1999-06-17  0:00                               ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` David Botton
1999-06-18  0:00                                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-18  0:00                                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-06-18  0:00                                     ` David Botton
1999-06-18  0:00                                       ` Pascal Obry
1999-07-20  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-17  0:00                             ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-17  0:00                               ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` bob
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` Mike Silva
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                             ` kirk
1999-06-16  0:00                               ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` john
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` Ed Falis
1999-06-18  0:00                                     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-16  0:00                               ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-17  0:00                                       ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-22  0:00                                         ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-22  0:00                                           ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-23  0:00                                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-24  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-24  0:00                                                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-18  0:00                                       ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` bob
1999-06-18  0:00                                       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-18  0:00                                         ` mike
1999-06-18  0:00                                           ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-19  0:00                                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-21  0:00                                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-19  0:00                                             ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-21  0:00                                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-21  0:00                                             ` Mike Silva
1999-06-20  0:00                                 ` Sera Hirasuna
1999-06-19  0:00                                   ` Kio
1999-06-20  0:00                                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-21  0:00                                   ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-06-22  0:00                                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-06-23  0:00                                       ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-23  0:00                                       ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-22  0:00                                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-21  0:00                                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-06-22  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-23  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                           ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-23  0:00                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                             ` Roedy Green
1999-06-23  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-24  0:00                                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-24  0:00                                   ` Mike Silva
1999-06-16  0:00                 ` Mark Hood
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-15  0:00               ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                 ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-16  0:00                   ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-15  0:00               ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-15  0:00                 ` jerry
1999-06-16  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-16  0:00                     ` jerry
1999-06-17  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-17  0:00               ` David Botton
1999-06-12  0:00   ` PPAATT
1999-06-13  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-14  0:00     ` tmoran
1999-06-30  0:00       ` John Merryweather Cooper
1999-07-01  0:00         ` Chad R. Meiners
1999-07-02  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-02  0:00             ` John Merryweather Cooper
1999-07-03  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00 ` nabbasi
1999-06-12  0:00   ` jerry
1999-06-12  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
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