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From: D'Arcy Smith <nospam@itools.symantec.com>
To: Mike Silva <mjsilva@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Ada and Java. different behaviour. casting long to int problem.
Date: 1999/06/16
Date: 1999-06-16T18:08:19+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3767E8A2.EF1A0570@itools.symantec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7k8nn5$qcb$1@its.hooked.net

Mike Silva wrote:

> D'Arcy Smith wrote in message <3766D1CC.D712895E@itools.symantec.com>...

> >If your sent into a room that is full of pins sticking up from the
> >floow - and you are tole that it is full of pins - and you run into
> >the room with your eyes closed then it is 100% your fault.

> The situation is more analogous to taking a somebody who's driven for years,
> and giving them a car which is designed such that at 60 mph it suddenly
> shifts into reverse.  

I.m going with your talking about people going from some language
(say Ada) to another (say Java)... 

I'd say it is more like sending a US driver to England...


> Below 60 mph everything is normal.  He's not an idiot,
> and he's not incompetent, but no matter how hard he tries one day he's going
> to forget and exceed 60 mph and whammo! (but hey, it was in the manual!)

Hey less stupid people, I'm all for it :-) (joke! - well I am not for 
stupid people... but it might include me... who knows :-)



> Things designed to be used by humans should strive for "reasonable",
> "expected" behavior whenever possible, and should notify the human when
> that's not possible.

How long has C been around?  Its not like this is a new issue.
And if you take the people using Java as a first language then
there is no issue (they get told that this is the way it is).

When you switch from one language to another, or just compare
languages, your going to think that the new language does some
lame assed things... I felt that way about Java (I still do
for some things)... but get over it.

..darcy
-- 
D'Arcy Smith
Sr. Software Engineer
Symantec, Internet Tools Division

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-06-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-12  0:00 Ada and Java. different behaviour. casting long to int problem nabbasi
1999-06-12  0:00 ` nabbasi
1999-06-12  0:00   ` jerry
1999-06-12  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-12  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-12  0:00   ` PPAATT
1999-06-12  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-12  0:00     ` kirck
1999-06-13  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00         ` Fred
1999-06-14  0:00           ` Mark Hood
1999-06-15  0:00             ` mike
1999-06-15  0:00               ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                 ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-16  0:00                   ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-06-15  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-15  0:00                 ` Mike Silva
1999-06-15  0:00                   ` rich
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-15  0:00                       ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-15  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` bill
1999-06-16  0:00                             ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-16  0:00                               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-06-17  0:00                               ` Chris Dollin
1999-06-17  0:00                               ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` David Botton
1999-06-18  0:00                                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-18  0:00                                     ` David Botton
1999-06-18  0:00                                       ` Pascal Obry
1999-06-18  0:00                                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-07-20  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-17  0:00                             ` George W. Bayles
1999-06-17  0:00                               ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` bob
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` Mike Silva
1999-06-16  0:00                           ` D'Arcy Smith [this message]
1999-06-16  0:00                             ` kirk
1999-06-16  0:00                               ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` bob
1999-06-18  0:00                                       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-18  0:00                                         ` mike
1999-06-18  0:00                                           ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-19  0:00                                             ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-21  0:00                                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-19  0:00                                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-21  0:00                                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-21  0:00                                             ` Mike Silva
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-17  0:00                                       ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-22  0:00                                         ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-22  0:00                                           ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-23  0:00                                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-24  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-24  0:00                                                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-18  0:00                                       ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-20  0:00                                 ` Sera Hirasuna
1999-06-19  0:00                                   ` Kio
1999-06-20  0:00                                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-21  0:00                                   ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-06-22  0:00                                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-06-23  0:00                                       ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-23  0:00                                       ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-22  0:00                                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-21  0:00                                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-16  0:00                               ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                                 ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` D'Arcy Smith
1999-06-17  0:00                                   ` john
1999-06-17  0:00                                     ` Ed Falis
1999-06-18  0:00                                     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-17  0:00                           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-22  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-23  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                           ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-23  0:00                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                             ` Roedy Green
1999-06-23  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-23  0:00                                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-24  0:00                                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-24  0:00                                   ` Mike Silva
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` tmoran
1999-06-15  0:00                       ` David Botton
1999-06-16  0:00                       ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-16  0:00                       ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-16  0:00                 ` Mark Hood
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-06-17  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-06-17  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-15  0:00               ` Samuel Mize
1999-06-15  0:00                 ` jerry
1999-06-16  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-06-16  0:00                     ` jerry
1999-06-17  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-17  0:00               ` David Botton
1999-06-13  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-14  0:00     ` tmoran
1999-06-30  0:00       ` John Merryweather Cooper
1999-07-01  0:00         ` Chad R. Meiners
1999-07-02  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-02  0:00             ` John Merryweather Cooper
1999-07-03  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
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