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From: "Matt Cox" <mcox@compd.com>
Subject: Re: How many different processors do you use?
Date: 1999/06/09
Date: 1999-06-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <375e1d7b@news.compd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7jjij7$qci$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Not wanting to go into the wheres and wherebys that restricts Ada usage to
mostly military products, if you think that Ada is badly supported then go
and have a look at the Rational toolset (Statement, Rose, multiple
X-Compilers, integrated environment, blah, blah, blah...)

Matt Cox

<Snip>
>1. The Ada comittee went and created their own syntak, and increased
>the learning curve.
>
>2. The Reagen adminstration was so anti-gov that they didn't fund a
>quality free or at least cheap Ada development system for education, and
>small companies.  An Ada development system could cost upto 10,000 $ for
>a bad product.
>
>3. Ada's requirements on compiliers made them more expensive, and very
>hard to do on DSP, and small embedded Processors.  This meant that
>Chip manufactures were reluctant to fund development.
>
>4. The high costs of using Ada prevented widespread use outside the
>defense industry.
>
>5. As said before, the government blind insistance that Ada was the
>choice for everything, embittered the defense companies and their
>Engineers.
>
>6. All of the above has created a situlation, where staffing Ada
>programmers is very, very difficult.  Many companies have given up and
>switched back to C/C++ including mine.  This problem was made much
>worst by the current engineering market, where people need and want to
>be able to move often.  Knowing Ada is not a big plus outside defense
>and a few related fields.
>
>7.  The killer is that defense programs run for years and thus you like
>to start with the state of the Art Processors.  Since Ada is not a
>popular language it is almost never supported at the start of a
>Processor life cycle.







      parent reply	other threads:[~1999-06-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

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1999-06-08  0:00         ` How many different processors do you use? muddy_buddy
1999-06-08  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00             ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-06-10  0:00                         ` Robert B. Love 
1999-06-11  0:00                           ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` rawcswi
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` rawcswi
1999-06-20  0:00                       ` Eric Roesinger
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Something doesn't compute here (was Re: How many different processors do you use?) David Kristola
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Elizabeth D Rather
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Jerry Petrey
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Jim Prince
1999-06-12  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-09  0:00           ` How many different processors do you use? Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ed Avis
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ada95 (was: How many different processors do you use?) Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00               ` How many different processors do you use? Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00               ` dennison
1999-06-10  0:00               ` John Kodis
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` martin lytz
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Fraser Wilson
1999-06-11  0:00                     ` David Botton
     [not found]                     ` <7jpb1e$ic8$1@remarq.com>
1999-06-11  0:00                       ` fraser
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                 ` Dave Hansen
1999-06-11  0:00                   ` martin lytz
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Roger Espel Llima
1999-06-12  0:00               ` mjsilva
1999-06-14  0:00                 ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-25  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-26  0:00                     ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00               ` markh
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-13  0:00                   ` markh
1999-06-25  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-25  0:00                       ` Lew Pitcher
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-29  0:00                               ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-29  0:00                                 ` Richard Kettlewell
1999-06-30  0:00                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-07-08  0:00                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-07-09  0:00                                       ` no-one
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Dan Nagle
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Greg Martin
1999-06-09  0:00           ` Matt Cox [this message]
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