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From: Tucker Taft <stt@averstar.com>
Subject: Re: Ada safety road Was: Which is right ...
Date: 1999/06/09
Date: 1999-06-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <375E9592.32DA0709@averstar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7jlg6l$g6d$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert Dewar wrote:
> 
> In article <yeclndu44z8.fsf@king.cts.com>,
>   Keith Thompson <kst@cts.com> wrote:
> > This is why the authors of Ada (both 83 and 95) made such an
> > effort to minimize the number of cases where this can happen,
> > and to clearly document the cases that couldn't reasonably be
> > avoided.
> 
> I think more could have been done, particularly in the area
> of uninitialized variables. 

Using an uninitialized variable is *not* erroneous in Ada 95.

> ... For simple variables, I like the
> CDL approach which says that there must not exist any static
> paths through the program allowing a simple variable to be
> undefined (i.e. no ud chain can reach from a reference to a
> declaration with no initialization). This worked very well
> in CDL in practice (CDL = Koster's Compiler Definition
> Language).

I presume that Ada 95 compilers that try to properly avoid unpredictable
behavior when an uninitialized variable is used do this kind of
tracking to determine whether the variable *might* be uninitialized,
and hence might be outside its declared range. 
Both GNAT and AdaMagic-based Ada 95 compilers seem to produce
"uninitialized variable" warnings these days.  At least in
the AdaMagic-based compilers, that information is used to
"bound" possible errors associated with using uninitialized variables, 
to avoid the dreaded erroneous/nose-demon situation.
 
-- 
-Tucker Taft   stt@averstar.com   http://www.averstar.com/~stt/
Technical Director, Distributed IT Solutions  (www.averstar.com/tools)
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  reply	other threads:[~1999-06-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-05-30  0:00 Which is right here - GNAT or OA ? Vladimir Olensky
1999-05-30  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-31  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-05-31  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-01  0:00   ` dennison
1999-05-30  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-31  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-05-31  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-05  0:00       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-05  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
1999-06-05  0:00         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-07  0:00             ` Ada safety road Was: Which is right Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-07  0:00                 ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-06-07  0:00                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-08  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-06  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-06-07  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-07  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-08  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-08  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-08  0:00                       ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-09  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00                           ` Tucker Taft [this message]
1999-06-09  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-06-09  0:00                           ` Entamology of "Nasal Demons" dennison
1999-06-09  0:00                       ` Ada safety road Was: Which is right dennison
1999-06-08  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-07  0:00                     ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-08  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-14  0:00                   ` Ada safety road Franco Mazzanti
1999-06-15  0:00                     ` Franco Mazzanti
1999-06-16  0:00                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-10  0:00               ` Ada safety road Was: Which is right Peter Amey
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-11  0:00                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-12  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00                       ` JP Thornley
1999-06-13  0:00                         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-16  0:00                         ` William Dale
1999-06-19  0:00                           ` JP Thornley
1999-06-21  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
1999-06-13  0:00                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-12  0:00                         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-06-13  0:00                           ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-13  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-13  0:00                           ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-13  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-13  0:00                           ` swhalen
1999-06-13  0:00                           ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-06-01  0:00   ` Which is right here - GNAT or OA ? Tucker Taft
1999-05-31  0:00 ` David Botton
1999-06-01  0:00   ` dennison
1999-06-03  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
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