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From: mff@wuphys.UUCP (Swamp Thing)
Subject: Re: What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion)
Date: Sat, 5-Oct-85 11:17:16 EDT	[thread overview]
Date: Sat Oct  5 11:17:16 1985
Message-ID: <374@wuphys.UUCP> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 879@lll-crg.UUCP

In article <879@lll-crg.UUCP> brooks@lll-crg.UUCP (Eugene D. Brooks III) writes:
>Could we please keep this discussion in net.ada, net.politics or net.religion.
>
>I subscribed to net.ada for a month a year ago in apology to a ADA nut
>for posting the statement "ADA sucks" to the net.  There were a total of two
>articles on net.ada that month, which is proof enough that ADA is a language
>that is devoid if serious use.  The only people who like it are those who can't
>manage to write correct programs and need a crutch like subscript checking even
>in a production version of a code.
>
>If you program has a proof of correctness, and it checks its input data
>properly, it does not need range checks on subscripts.  Such checking only
>slows the computer down.  I don't have spare cycles for such a wast of time.
>REAL programmers don't need subscript checking, they write lint free code
>automatically.  Please leave your ADA hype on net.ada where no one is bothering
>to read it!

The whole point of subscript checking, as far as I'm concerned, is to use
during development.  I don't see how slowing down the cpu is an issue for that.
On the other hand, if ADA doesn't allow you to turn off checking, I could see
that would be a pain.  I guess we're not all perfect programers.  And having
"a" proof of correctness hardly means that a complicated piece of code will
work as intended in all circumstances.

						Mark F. Flynn
						Department of Physics
						Washington University
						St. Louis, MO  63130
						ihnp4!wuphys!mff

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1985-10-05 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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1985-09-29 18:21       ` What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Jan Steinman
1985-10-02  1:16         ` Eugene D. Brooks III
1985-10-03 20:14           ` William D Michael
1985-10-05 19:23             ` DARIN JOHNSON
1985-10-04 13:04           ` Re: What I miss... (really C, Ada, r rosen
1985-10-04 13:44           ` What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Jon Mauney
1985-10-05 15:17           ` Swamp Thing [this message]
1985-10-05 21:30           ` S.Rajeev
1985-10-06  6:04           ` Jan Steinman
1985-10-07 20:56           ` J. Eric Roskos
1985-10-02 16:04         ` Peter da Silva
1985-10-07 21:04           ` J. Eric Roskos
1985-10-09 18:56           ` Wayne Throop
1985-10-09 23:47           ` Peter Ludemann
1985-09-30 20:00       ` Subscript out-of-bounds detection Joe Orost
1985-10-06 20:54   ` What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Eugene D. Brooks III
1985-10-07 14:13   ` Karl Tombre
1985-10-11 12:59   ` J. Eric Roskos
1985-10-13  6:28   ` Barry Margolin
1985-10-16  5:46   ` systolic processor? wildstar
1985-10-21  2:26   ` Re: What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Richard Welty
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