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From: billwolf@hubcap.clemson.edu (William Thomas Wolfe,2847,)
Subject: Re: Collective response to := messages
Date: 5 Dec 88 12:45:03 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3740@hubcap.UUCP> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 808@quintus.UUCP

From article <808@quintus.UUCP>, by ok@quintus.uucp (Richard A. O'Keefe):
> In article <3733@hubcap.UUCP> wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu writes:
>>   No, I do NOT want garbage collection.  Since GC cannot handle the
>>   problems of circular-list garbage without outrageous time expenditures,
> 
> Are you up-to-date on this?  There has been a lot of work done on GC in
> the last 5 years.

    No, I'm not, but I'll bet GC still can't be done in O(n) time 
    with regard to the number of items of garbage, with constants
    no greater than the overhead of a deallocation...

>>   Furthermore, GC encourages sloppy programming.
> 
> It would be a service if you could elaborate on this [...]

    The programmer is Johnny-on-the-spot.  He/she KNOWS whether or not
    a given object is no longer needed.  All that is necessary is an 
    indication of this fact via the command DESTROY (Unneeded_Object).

    If the programmer is sloppy and leaves garbage lying all over the place,
    the "maid" must do all the hard work of deciding what to keep 
    and what to throw out.  Furthermore, this price must be paid
    repeatedly at execution time.  This is a heavy price to pay for
    not simply designing it right the first time.  

  reply	other threads:[~1988-12-05 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1988-12-03 22:53 Collective response to := messages Erland Sommarskog
1988-12-04 20:41 ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-05  5:47   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1988-12-05 12:45     ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847, [this message]
1988-12-06  1:54       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1988-12-06 20:43         ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-07 15:22         ` Collective response to := messa ron
1988-12-11 19:11           ` Garbage Collection William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-12  5:29             ` John Gateley
1988-12-12 18:19               ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-13  1:02                 ` Alexander Klaiber
1988-12-13 18:37                   ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-13 23:36                     ` Alexander Klaiber
1988-12-14  3:26                       ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-14 17:16                       ` Stephe Leake
1988-12-15 14:43                       ` Thomas P. Morris
1988-12-14 23:30                     ` John Gateley
1988-12-15 19:25                       ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-19 16:12                         ` John Gateley
1988-12-20 19:34                           ` Bill Wolfe
1988-12-16  0:49                     ` Keys are references, too (was Re: Garbage Collection) Badger BA 64810
1988-12-18 18:42                       ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-13 20:22                   ` Garbage Collection William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-14  6:40                     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1988-12-14 17:43                       ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1989-01-02 17:51             ` ryer
1989-01-05  8:31               ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1989-01-06 16:58             ` ryer
1989-01-08 19:24               ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1988-12-05  6:53 Collective response to := messages Erland Sommarskog
1988-12-03 21:08 Erland Sommarskog
1988-12-04 20:30 ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-11-28 22:19 Geoff Mendal
1988-11-29 14:39 ` Dennis Doubleday
1988-11-29 21:08 ` Ray Trent
1988-11-30 14:37   ` Stephe Leake
1988-12-01 14:54     ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-02 20:21       ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-04 21:15         ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-04 23:27           ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-05 14:46             ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-05 21:23               ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-07 17:33                 ` Stephe Leake
1988-12-07 17:15             ` Stephe Leake
1988-12-07 16:07       ` Stephe Leake
1988-12-09  3:15         ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-01 21:31     ` Ray Trent
1988-12-07 16:21       ` Stephe Leake
1988-11-30 16:29   ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-11-30 18:29     ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-11-30 22:28       ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-01  3:09         ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-01 15:16           ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-02 19:31             ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-04 21:03               ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-05  2:34                 ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1988-12-05 14:07                   ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-07 17:26                     ` Stephe Leake
1988-12-01 18:31     ` Ray Trent
1988-12-02 14:49       ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-11-30 18:24   ` Robert Eachus
1988-12-02 14:58     ` David S. Rosenblum
1988-12-02 19:34   ` Mark C. Adolph
1988-11-29 21:44 ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
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