From: Marin David Condic <condicma@bogon.pwfl.com>
Subject: Re: A question for my personal knowledge
Date: 1999/05/17
Date: 1999-05-17T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <374087D5.3AB3A14A@pwfl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7hpt8e$o46@drn.newsguy.com
Chris wrote:
> In an ideal world, yes. In the real world, 99.999% of those hiring have
> no clue, they only look for certain words on the resume. If you do not
> have those words listed, you've just missed a chance to be even invited for
> an interview.
>
This is very true if you are dealing with a personnel department or
possibly the sorts of organizations that hire truckloads of associates
degrees to maintain existing payroll applications. However, in my
experience, when you are talking to the person who is actually going to
have to be your boss and the job itself is sufficiently sophisticated,
the language stops being the real concern and your ability to come up
with imaginative solutions to real world problems along with your work
ethic and ability to get things done become far more important.
When I've been in the hiring side of the equation, my biggest concern is
that I have a problem that needs fixing. Project X has certain technical
challenges and a schedule to meet. Am I going to find someone who is
going to make my problems go away? Language is seldom an issue if the
individual in question seems to know anything about embedded systems.
Maybe that's because coding is only a small fraction of the overall job.
But send a request to the personnel department and all they are going to
be able to do is read is buzzwords and see who's resume has matching
buzzwords. Its not their fault - they can't know everything technical
about the people they bring in the door and all they've got to work with
is our description of what we're looking for.
You know, now that I think about it, I never once got a job where I
could point to significant work experience in the language that was
actually used. I've had five different professional jobs and a few
dramatic "job changes" internal to Pratt, and each one of them meant I
had to start using a language I knew almost nothing about. Am I the only
one with this experience?
MDC
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-05-10 0:00 A question for my personal knowledge Siamak Kaveh
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Charlie McCutcheon
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Werner Pachler
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Charlie McCutcheon
1999-05-17 0:00 ` bglbv
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-05-18 0:00 ` bglbv
1999-05-19 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Sam
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Paul Whittington
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Roy Grimm
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Roy Grimm
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Roy Grimm
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-05-11 0:00 ` dennison
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Mike Yoder
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Mike
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Mike
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-05-13 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-05-18 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Steve
1999-05-15 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-15 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-05-15 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-05-18 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-18 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-18 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-18 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-19 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Roy Grimm
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Roy Grimm
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Roger Racine
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Charlie McCutcheon
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Chris
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
1999-05-17 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-18 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-18 0:00 ` bglbv
1999-05-18 0:00 ` William B. Clodius
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Dan Nagle
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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