From: David Botton <David@Botton.com>
Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ?
Date: 1999/05/09
Date: 1999-05-09T19:15:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@Botton.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: MwkZ2.2415$2j3.3581@clnws01.we.mediaone.net
I think you need to see:
TASH - TCL/TK bindings for Ada
http://tash.calspan.com/
RAPID - TASH GUI Builder
ftp://ftp.usafa.af.mil/pub/dfcs/carlisle/usafa/rapid/index.html
You also should see some work in progress:
GTKAda
http://ada.eu.org/gtkada/
GTKAda on Win32
http://www.mv.com/users/jcreem/programming/win32gtk.htm
and I am also working on a cross platform GUI project that will also
support ActiveX on Win32.
BTW The reason many Java apps are marked for Win32 only is not because
they are lazy about install scripts, but rather because most Java apps
that do anything particularly useful use some sort of native code. I
have written in the last few years many Java apps, many of them made use
of COM on Win32 and thus non-portable.
Java is one of the best scripting languages I have ever used! I highly
recommend it whenever perl is too slow and the app is trivial :)
David Botton
"Pascal F. Martin" wrote:
>
> In article <7h399g$4nb@drn.newsguy.com>,
> steve <steve@newsguy.com> writes:
> >
> > I am finding that Ada is actually more portable than Java.
> > [...]
> > example:
> >
> > http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/cfparse
> >
> > You'll see the platform is windoz. but it is written in Java.
> > [...]
> > Java portability is a big spam. Ada is much much more portable
> > than Java will ever be.
>
> I would not start a flame war here, but do you know _any_ Ada
> standard for Graphical User Interface ? 8-{
>
> Most of the time, people use bindings to X Windows (usually custom),
> which does not work on 95 or NT, or binding to win32, which does not
> work on UNIX.
>
> I have used a few Java (and written several Tcl/Tk) programs with
> a GUI which worked on both systems. I have, so far, never seen such
> a program from the Ada side.
>
> Portability is always a touchy issue: beyond the language, there
> is the environment, and it seems people confuse both. If a library
> exists in one environment only, using this library makes your program
> non portable. It does not matter how portable your language is.
>
> BTW, Ada is very poor when it comes to user interfaces tools:
> either you redo it yourself (hardware dependencies ?) or you use
> bindings for a specific OS (or OS family). At least Java is trying
> to solve this issue.
>
> --
>
> Pascal F. Martin.
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-04-29 0:00 Java momentum slowing ? Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-04-29 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29 0:00 ` x
[not found] ` <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-01 0:00 ` Mike
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-03 0:00 ` dvdeug
1999-05-04 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-04 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-05-05 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-05 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-05 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Mitch
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Tom
1999-05-04 0:00 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-04-30 0:00 ` Tony Huynh
1999-04-30 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
[not found] ` <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Bob
1999-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-06 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-06 0:00 ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-06 0:00 ` Renaming Ada (Re: Java momentum slowing ?) David Botton
1999-05-06 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-07 0:00 ` dennison
1999-05-07 0:00 ` P.S. Norby
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Ada2001
1999-05-07 0:00 ` dennison
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-07 0:00 ` carlislemc
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Java momentum slowing ? Bob Munck
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1999-05-08 0:00 ` steve
1999-05-09 0:00 ` bill
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton [this message]
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-09 0:00 ` bill
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Steve
1999-05-10 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-11 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-11 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-12 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Dave
1999-05-13 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-14 0:00 ` [OT] " Clayton Weaver
1999-05-09 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Rob
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Mitch
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-22 0:00 ` olefevre
1999-05-22 0:00 ` Bob
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