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From: Corey Ashford <yeroca@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ?
Date: 1999/05/02
Date: 1999-05-02T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <372BB93F.7DCFD2E1@rocketmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com

mitch@nospam wrote:
> 
> In article <37289A2C.4B78EB60@rocketmail.com>, Corey says...
> >
> 
> >I think it will still be popular, but it seems to have split
> >into two camps now - J++ / COM  and Java / JavaBeans.
> 
> J++ is dead. you have not been keep up with the new. MS killed J++.
> no body was using it.
> 
> COM (or it it COM+ or is it DCOM these daya?) only runs on windows.

Where are you getting your information?

COM (DCOM is really just COM with a some distribution features, COM+
is the new thing) runs on other platforms besides Microsoft
(Sun and HP, if I recall correctly).  Granted, though, it's primary
use is on WinX platforms.

Microsoft didn't kill J++ as far as I can tell.  About six months ago
they released
VisualJ++ 6.0.  Check out this Q&A at Microsoft's web site for details
about the court ruling: http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualj/vjfaq.asp


> only an idiot will commit their software to run on only one platform
> using closed technology, and we know the world is full idiots, else
> windows will not be used as much as it is.

If your market was PC's, and you intended to run your code only on
PC's (for whatever reason), does that make you an idiot fo using a technology
which is well supported on the PC platform?

> 
> Java and Corba are getting more popular, offcourse, there will always be
> some managers, those bean counters types, with no clue about software, who
> will insist on ordering M$ products for they know no better, I've worked
> for one such moron.

I'm not saying M$ is great stuff, but a lot of developers are using it, and
that does give a developer the benefit of a large base of coders banging
away at problems and finding work-arounds for M$ weirdities.

I think you're burying your head in the sand if you don't recognize that
M$ is and will continue to be a force to reckon with in the software
world.




  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-05-02  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-29  0:00 Java momentum slowing ? Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-04-29  0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00   ` x
     [not found]   ` <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02  0:00     ` Corey Ashford [this message]
1999-05-01  0:00       ` Mike
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-03  0:00           ` dvdeug
1999-05-04  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-04  0:00               ` David Starner
1999-05-05  0:00                 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-05  0:00                   ` bob
1999-05-05  0:00                   ` David Starner
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02  0:00           ` David Botton
1999-05-03  0:00         ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02  0:00       ` David Botton
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02  0:00         ` bob
1999-05-02  0:00           ` Mitch
1999-05-02  0:00             ` Tom
1999-05-04  0:00     ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-04-30  0:00 ` Tony Huynh
1999-04-30  0:00   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
     [not found]     ` <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02  0:00       ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Bob
1999-05-03  0:00           ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-06  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-06  0:00               ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-06  0:00                 ` Renaming Ada (Re: Java momentum slowing ?) David Botton
1999-05-06  0:00                   ` bob
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` P.S. Norby
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Ada2001
1999-05-07  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-05-10  0:00                         ` Nick Roberts
1999-05-10  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-05-07  0:00                   ` carlislemc
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Ronald Cole
1999-05-07  0:00                   ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-07  0:00               ` Java momentum slowing ? Bob Munck
1999-05-07  0:00                 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1999-05-08  0:00                 ` steve
1999-05-09  0:00                   ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09  0:00                         ` bob
1999-05-09  0:00                           ` David Botton
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                               ` Rob
1999-05-10  0:00                           ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-09  0:00                         ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                           ` bill
1999-05-09  0:00                             ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                               ` Steve
1999-05-10  0:00                                 ` David Botton
1999-05-11  0:00                                   ` David Botton
1999-05-11  0:00                                     ` bob
1999-05-12  0:00                                       ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12  0:00                                         ` David Botton
1999-05-12  0:00                                           ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12  0:00                                             ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-12  0:00                                               ` David Botton
1999-05-12  0:00                                                 ` Dave
1999-05-13  0:00                                                   ` Pat Rogers
1999-05-13  0:00                                                   ` David Botton
1999-05-13  0:00                                                     ` Simon Wright
1999-05-12  0:00                                                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-05-14  0:00                                                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-14  0:00                                                     ` [OT] " Clayton Weaver
1999-05-10  0:00                     ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                       ` Mitch
1999-05-10  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-11  0:00                     ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-09  0:00                   ` bill
1999-05-09  0:00                     ` Simon Wright
1999-05-14  0:00                       ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00               ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-22  0:00           ` olefevre
1999-05-22  0:00             ` Bob
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