From: "William P.Milam" <wmilam@sirius.srl.ford.com>
Subject: Re: Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3!
Date: 1999/04/23
Date: 1999-04-23T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <372056E0.7007@sirius.srl.ford.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 371F8DE4.AF112B49@pwfl.com
Marin David Condic wrote:
>
> William P.Milam wrote:
> >
> > Have you looked at things like the Mathowrks MATLAB/Simulink/Stateflow
> > product as a option for 'programming by pictures'? Sounds to me
> > that much of what you offer may now be available from commercial
> > vendors, or close enough to warrant arm twisting....
> >
> At the time this was conceived, the people who had the thing closest to
> what we wanted were folks selling design tools for electronic circuits.
> Early work we did here was based on an outside tool wherein we defined
> parts & then "compiled" the diagrams based on the internal format for
> storing the diagrams. This tool eventually gave way to one that was
> entirely home grown by one of our sister-organizations, Hamilton
> Standard.
>
> I have not looked at any commercial tools recently since my involvement
> in the project is now more one of "end user" rather than "developer"
> (Everyone should be forced to do this at least once! ;-) There may be
> something out there which would fit the bill, but the requirements are
> that it support what our logic designers are used to (sort of) - control
> laws diagrams. (we also support a general flowchart-ish format). For new
> projects, it might be possible to undertake some whole new format of
> diagram, but it would have to support the kind of things that logic
> designers do.
Well several automotive companies are looking at the
Mathworks tools for precisely that kind of use, I work in
powertrain...which includes engines...which use the same
control theory that is employed in aircraft. Only we have to
do it cheaper. No cost overruns in teh consumer business. ;-)
>(I'm also getting too old and cranky to try to once again
> start pleading with them to try something new!)
I suspect that if you are older than I am it ain't gonna be by much.
Being a curmudgeon is all fine and good but new things keep
you young.
>
> The real value of the tool was that we took diagrams which the designers
> were going to draw anyway and formalized it enough that code could be
> automatically produced from the diagrams. That and being able to
> configuration manage/change control the whole thing meant substantial
> automation of an otherwise labor intensive process.
>
This is precisely what is happening in automotive, only we are
buying not developing. At some point you find that in-house tools
are not better and cost more. Then it's time to change. The
cost to not change can be a great deal higher.
Bill
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1999-04-19 0:00 ` Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3! Mike_jr
1999-04-19 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-19 0:00 ` Bruce L
1999-04-20 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20 0:00 ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-20 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20 0:00 ` "Paul E. Bennett"
1999-04-20 0:00 ` dennison
1999-04-20 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1999-04-20 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22 0:00 ` William P.Milam
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23 0:00 ` William P.Milam [this message]
1999-04-23 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-28 0:00 ` Philip Koopman
1999-04-28 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29 0:00 ` William P.Milam
[not found] ` <372A354F.F3539E74@mindspring.com>
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Matrix X Code Generation (Was Re: Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3!) Mark Bennison
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3! mike
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Ken Keys
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Dino Gianisis
1999-04-23 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23 0:00 ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-23 0:00 ` Frank McKenney
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-21 0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23 0:00 harbaugh
1999-04-26 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
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