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From: Marin David Condic <condicma@bogon.pwfl.com>
Subject: Re: Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3!
Date: 1999/04/22
Date: 1999-04-22T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <371F9097.F328D623@pwfl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p4waew0y94u.fsf@panix7.panix.com

Jim Kingdon wrote:
> Well, that might be an argument for open source rather than an
> argument against it.  The big problem with trying to sell open source
> software via support contracts is that most users don't really
> need/want the support.  But if the nature of the product is that most
> users will need some customization and help, then that particular
> problem isn't as bad (now, it isn't really the way to get massive
> numbers of sites using it, but it might work out for sites which want
> to deal with this).
> 
I can see your point. From the outside vendor's perspective it is more
attractive to continually sell support & customization. I just don't
know what the powers-that-be think about this sort of thing. They
alternate between "Its a critical competitive advantage that we can't
let get out the door!" all the way to "We're an engine company, not a
software company - outsource everything!" 


> 
> Bringing it back to P&W and the Pictures-to-Code program, it is quite
> clear that someone outside P&W needs to get a bee in their bonnet and
> decide they want to make this happen (with $$$ or some other suitable
> incentive).  Has anyone asked Ada Core (http://www.gnat.com/)?  No
> idea whether they would be interested, but it seems like a conceivable
> fit.

I think a lot of what the whole toolset does is a bit far afield for
ACT. There are parts of it which would be right up their alley - sort
of. The picture compiler is, after all, just another compiler. (IMHO,
the picture compiler badly needs to be rewritten to take into account
Ada95-isms and clean up areas where experience has shown us better ways.
But unless we could get a better thing as COTS to integrate with the
rest of the system, I doubt this will happen.)

A good general diagram-to-code tool with maybe a couple of application
specific diagram formats might be a good sell here. I'd be sorely
tempted to want to be in on the development of this since I have spent a
number of years grumbling about some of the shortcomings of our existing
picture compiler! :-)

MDC
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United Technologies, Pratt & Whitney, Large Military Engines
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-04-22  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <371B6EC8.36B9C247@pwfl.com>
1999-04-19  0:00 ` Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3! Mike_jr
1999-04-19  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-19  0:00     ` Bruce L
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-20  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20  0:00     ` "Paul E. Bennett"
1999-04-20  0:00     ` dennison
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-20  0:00         ` Jerry Petrey
1999-04-20  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Jerry Petrey
1999-04-21  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00     ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-21  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Ken
1999-04-22  0:00           ` Jim Kingdon
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00               ` William P.Milam
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23  0:00                   ` William P.Milam
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-28  0:00                 ` Philip Koopman
1999-04-28  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` William P.Milam
     [not found]                     ` <372A354F.F3539E74@mindspring.com>
1999-05-13  0:00                       ` Matrix X Code Generation (Was Re: Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3!) Mark Bennison
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Pratt & Whitney's Embedded Software - CMM Level 3! mike
1999-04-22  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Jim Kingdon
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Marin David Condic [this message]
1999-04-22  0:00         ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-22  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00             ` Ken Keys
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-22  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Dino Gianisis
1999-04-23  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23  0:00                 ` Stephen Maudsley
1999-04-23  0:00                 ` Frank McKenney
1999-04-21  0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-21  0:00 ` Ken
1999-04-22  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-23  0:00 harbaugh
1999-04-26  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29  0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
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