From: Jerry <list_email@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: How to access an array using two different indexing schemes
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:58:57 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2017-11-25T12:58:57-08:00 [thread overview]
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On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 8:37:25 AM UTC-7, Robin wrote:
> "Jeffrey R. Carter" wrote in message
> ...
> > On 11/24/2017 12:42 PM, Jerry wrote:
> >> I want to access an array such as Real_Vector (built-in for Ada >= 2005) with two different
> >> indexing schemes. For example, I would access a Real_Vector indexed (0 .. 4) when thinking of it
> >> as a times series and the same data indexed (1 .. 5) when thinking of it as a vector. Another
> >> application would be a vector indexed (-128 .. 127) because it fits my problem domain, perhaps a
> >> spatial variable, but I need to index it as (0 .. 255) when thinking of doing a Fast Fourier
> >> Transform on it.
> >
> > I can't think of any situation when I'd need to access the same component of an array using
> > different indices,
>
> It can arise in boundary value problems, where operations are carried out
> on all elements of a matrix except the first and last rows, and first and
> last columns.
>
> In PL/I, such situations are handled using the iSUB facility.
>
If I understand correctly, this is actually different from what I described, which is accessing the same data with different indexing schemes.
You describe a situation where the data are actually different (deleting rows and columns). Your problem could be handled by array slicing for nD arrays where n > 1.
As has been discussed here before, Ada strangely and annoyingly lacks slicing for multidimensional arrays, leading the programmer to devise ugly error-prone ad hoc methods, and that is very un-Ada-like.
Your problem would also be solved by a sub-matrix capability which is apparently what you describe for PL/1. Of course Ada also lacks this capability along with matrix compositions, both of which Matlab excels at.
These missing array features and the fairly trivial but readability-reducing method of using () for array indexing instead of the highly suggestive [] are probably the main things that keep Ada from being a first-class language for numerical work.
It seems that if some of these concerns were addressed it would help Ada expand its fields of use, a desire which has been expressed in the past.
Jerry
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-24 11:42 How to access an array using two different indexing schemes Jerry
2017-11-24 12:33 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-24 15:52 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-24 22:25 ` Jerry
2017-11-25 13:57 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-24 22:23 ` Jerry
2017-11-25 15:39 ` Robin
2017-11-25 20:58 ` Jerry [this message]
2017-11-26 10:22 ` Robin
2017-11-28 21:57 ` G. B.
2017-11-24 17:37 ` A. Cervetti
2017-11-24 21:48 ` Jerry
2017-11-24 22:15 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-24 23:38 ` Jerry
2017-11-26 1:07 ` Jerry
2017-11-26 8:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-26 10:31 ` Jerry
2017-11-28 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-28 1:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-29 4:57 ` Jerry
2017-11-29 15:01 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-29 15:21 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-30 5:32 ` Jerry
2017-11-30 5:30 ` Jerry
2017-11-29 15:03 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-29 20:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-29 16:03 ` Shark8
2017-11-29 17:04 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-29 20:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-30 5:56 ` Jerry
2017-11-30 11:11 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-30 11:40 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-30 14:47 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-11-30 17:30 ` AdaMagica
2017-11-30 19:31 ` G. B.
2017-11-30 19:43 ` Shark8
2017-11-30 22:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-30 21:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-30 22:49 ` Jerry
2017-11-30 23:00 ` Jerry
2017-11-30 21:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-30 23:13 ` Jerry
2017-11-24 18:37 ` Per Sandberg
2017-11-24 21:28 ` Jerry
2017-11-24 21:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-28 1:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-11-24 22:12 ` Robert A Duff
2017-11-28 1:39 ` Randy Brukardt
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