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From: munck@Mill-Creek-Systems.com (Bob Munck)
Subject: Re: how to make Ada more popular?
Date: 1999/01/23
Date: 1999-01-23T19:30:33+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36aa1a20.51871186@news.mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 787hk5$q6t@drn.newsguy.com

On 21 Jan 1999 07:37:41 -0800, bill_1@nospam.com wrote:

>
>lets face it. Ada is not used much in commerical sector.
>
>What can be done to improve the situation?

Web server, development environment, GUI library, etc,
etc.  -- all technical solutions.

THIS IS NOT A TECHNICAL PROBLEM!!

I think most of the people reading this newsgroup will agree
that Ada is technically superior to all the fad languages --
C++, Java -- for the great majority of their uses and the great
majority of the institutions using them.  That fact has made it
somewhat successful, but much less so than those other
languages.  Further demonstration of that kind of superiority
will have limited value.

I believe that what we need is to have one or more new or
existing companies use Ada to develop a large, widely-
used package that is significantly better engineered and
less buggy than others of its type.  The company would also
maintain and enhance the package through massive
changes in its own features and its underlying platform.
Finally, it would have to do both development and enhancement
quickly and at low cost.

Is this possible?  I don't know.  The commercial software
culture seems to give us products that are "quick and dirty"
throughout their entire lifecycle.  They're thrown together
quickly, developed and enhanced with "death march"
projects, pushed through brute force testing, debugged by
beta releases that are practically indistinguishable from
general releases, and die a painful death when they
become too kludgy to live.

Companies make money with products like this only because
there is a huge rate of growth in the number of new users
of computers in general.  They raise the money to create
upgrades for their existing users by selling full packages to
new users; in effect, it's a ponzi scheme.

Bob Munck
Mill Creek Systems LC





  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-01-23  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-21  0:00 how to make Ada more popular? bill_1
1999-01-21  0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
1999-01-21  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-23  0:00   ` micro_ada
1999-01-23  0:00     ` Al Christians
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-21  0:00   ` Hans N. Beck
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21  0:00   ` bill_1
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Fraser Wilson
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-01-22  0:00   ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-01-24  0:00     ` Tom Moran
1999-01-24  0:00       ` bill_1
1999-01-25  0:00         ` Kees Serier
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-24  0:00   ` dewar
1999-01-25  0:00     ` Markus Kuhn
1999-01-24  0:00       ` Al Christians
1999-01-25  0:00       ` dennison
1999-01-29  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Kees Serier
1999-01-22  0:00   ` dennison
1999-01-25  0:00   ` news.oxy.com
1999-01-25  0:00     ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Richard D Riehle
1999-01-27  0:00         ` kna
1999-01-27  0:00           ` Tom Moran
1999-01-25  0:00     ` bill_1
1999-01-30  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00   ` David Botton
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-01-23  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-01-24  0:00   ` Lack of Ada Windows books (was: " Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-23  0:00 ` Bob Munck [this message]
1999-01-31  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-27  0:00 ` Making ADA More Popular Michael Garrett
1999-01-27  0:00   ` joel
1999-01-27  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-27  0:00   ` Michael Garrett
1999-01-28  0:00   ` dewar
1999-02-03  0:00 ` how to make Ada more popular? Donald Duck
1999-02-03  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-03  0:00   ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-02-03  0:00     ` news.oxy.com
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