From: Joseph P Vlietstra <joevl@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: The future of Ada
Date: 1999/03/12
Date: 1999-03-12T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <36E9FB6E.42EE423@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7cc579$clq@drn.newsguy.com
steve@nopsam.com wrote:
> In article <87g17axtv2.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com>, Chris says...
> >
>
> >they didn't. I would have preferred to continue to work in Ada even at
> >a small salary disadvantage, but not for a 25-50% one, defence
> >projects are hard enough work as it is.
>
> Someone also mentioned in this news group that Ada programmers
> get paid less than the rest. This is another proof of the fact.
> I also found the same thing, that Ada jobs pay less.
Well I'm doing fine. Ada has helped, and continues to help, my career.
Even though the mandate is gone, I selected Ada over C for my project.
This was a no-brainer decision -- we're writing embedded software for use in
a satellite, a perfect match for Ada. But I also decided that all of the
support
software should also be written in Ada. My reasoning for this decision was
pretty weak -- I wanted to use the support software effort as an Ada training
camp for the satellite software effort and was willing to pay the "extra cost".
As the readers of this newsgroup can probably guess, there was no extra cost
to develop the support software in Ada. In fact, I have an embarrassingly high
positive cost variance (underrun). As all project managers know, it's more fun
to write a variance report for an underrun than an overrun.
Since Ada detects many defects at compile-time, fewer defects remain to be
detected at inspection and unit test. (We also use Ada-ASSURED prior to
inspection to reduce style defects.) This means I have fewer defects to report
in our organizational defect database. So when our director of software
engineering briefs our CEO on software defect rates, our project looks great.
In other words, using Ada means our project doesn't get any "help" from
senior management.
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1999-03-10 0:00 The future of Ada Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Michael Garrett
1999-03-12 0:00 ` vershokv
1999-03-26 0:00 ` John McCabe
1999-03-26 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-27 0:00 ` west
1999-03-27 0:00 ` mjsilva
1999-03-27 0:00 ` west
1999-03-27 0:00 ` mjsilva
1999-03-27 0:00 ` Chad R. Meiners
1999-03-28 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-29 0:00 ` Steve Quinlan
1999-03-29 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-31 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-31 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-04-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Stephen Thomas
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-03-30 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-03-30 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-29 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-03-31 0:00 ` west
1999-04-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-01 0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-04-02 0:00 ` dennison
1999-04-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-02 0:00 ` kewick
1999-04-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-05 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-03 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-27 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-27 0:00 ` John McCabe
1999-03-27 0:00 ` west
1999-03-28 0:00 ` John McCabe
1999-04-16 0:00 ` s.shering
1999-03-27 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-28 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-28 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-27 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-28 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-22 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-22 0:00 ` Gisle S�lensminde
1999-03-23 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-23 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-23 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-26 0:00 ` R. Rabeau
1999-03-26 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Gunther Dragoski
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Dino Gianisis
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Olivier Devuns
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-11 0:00 ` kirk
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12 0:00 ` steve
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Joseph P Vlietstra [this message]
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Mark D. McKinney
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-14 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Steve Whalen
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-12 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
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1990-08-15 18:49 The Future " Edward V. Berard
1990-08-15 23:05 ` Michael Endrizzi
1990-08-15 15:19 Michael Endrizzi
1990-08-15 17:52 ` Jerry Callen
1990-08-17 17:21 ` Steve Vestal
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