From: Al Christians <achrist@easystreet.com>
Subject: Re: The future of Ada
Date: 1999/03/10
Date: 1999-03-10T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <36E6ADE7.86A76235@easystreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 36E690FA.4B9C@sandia.gov
Gordon Dodrill wrote:
>
> A few weeks ago someone in this newsgroup mentioned that
> Ada is a $100M industry. If this number is reasonable,
> then assuming a loaded salary of $120K per year, there are
> only about 830 full time Ada developers.
>
This is a complete non-sequitur. The $100MM figure was given
as the worldwide market volume for Ada tools. If spending on
tools is (pick a number) $5,000 per tool-user, per year, that
is 20,000 developers worldwide using Ada. Figure 1% of the C++
market.
Although Ada is designed to give long-run benefits, if you are
making good use of Ada and it meets your requirements, it may
also be giving you substantial short-run financial benefits,
i.e. lower cost this year to develop what you must develop this
year. Management always likes short-run benefits, i.e. fast $.
Tell them that even if you ultimately have to convert to C++,
there is a big and expensive productivity chasm during the period
in which the change is made, and that you can finance the switch
with the savings from using Ada for a while longer. Then, if and
when Ada gets to be more exensive than C++, you can take the leap.
Maybe that day will never come.
If that doesn't work, then tell them that Java is much more
like Ada and would be easier to switch to than C++. Tell them
that it would be wise to wait for Java to stabilize, for better
Java development tools to proliferate, and for more efficient Java
VM's to show up. That when Java gets to be a better choice than
Ada, you will change to Java instead. That day might never come
either.
Al
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Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-03-10 0:00 The future of Ada Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-03-10 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Al Christians [this message]
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Michael Garrett
1999-03-12 0:00 ` vershokv
1999-03-26 0:00 ` John McCabe
1999-03-26 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-27 0:00 ` west
1999-03-27 0:00 ` John McCabe
1999-03-27 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-27 0:00 ` west
1999-03-28 0:00 ` John McCabe
1999-04-16 0:00 ` s.shering
1999-03-27 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-27 0:00 ` mjsilva
1999-03-27 0:00 ` west
1999-03-27 0:00 ` Chad R. Meiners
1999-03-27 0:00 ` mjsilva
1999-03-28 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-29 0:00 ` Steve Quinlan
1999-03-29 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-03-29 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-31 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-31 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-04-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Stephen Thomas
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-30 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-03-30 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-03-30 0:00 ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-31 0:00 ` west
1999-04-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-01 0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-04-02 0:00 ` dennison
1999-04-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-02 0:00 ` kewick
1999-04-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-05 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-03 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-28 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-28 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-27 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-28 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-11 0:00 ` kirk
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12 0:00 ` steve
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Joseph P Vlietstra
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Mark D. McKinney
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-14 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Gunther Dragoski
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Dino Gianisis
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Olivier Devuns
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-22 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-22 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-22 0:00 ` Gisle S�lensminde
1999-03-23 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-23 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-23 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-26 0:00 ` R. Rabeau
1999-03-26 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Steve Whalen
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-12 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-15 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-13 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
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