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From: Gordon Dodrill <gjdodri@sandia.gov>
Subject: The future of Ada
Date: 1999/03/10
Date: 1999-03-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36E690FA.4B9C@sandia.gov> (raw)

A few weeks ago someone in this newsgroup mentioned that 
Ada is a $100M industry.  If this number is reasonable, 
then assuming a loaded salary of $120K per year, there are
only about 830 full time Ada developers.

I attended the JavaOne conference in the spring of 1998 
which had over 15,000 in attendance.  I also attended the 
SigAda conference in St Louis in the Fall of 1997, which
had less than 400 in attendance.  I understand that the
Software Development conference (West), which is heavily
oriented toward C++, is still attracting about 6,000 
attendees

I am completely sold on Ada concerning its type safety and
its economy of use.  In fact, I am the local Ada evangelist
and successfully convinced a group of 18 developers to use
Ada on a new project.  This involved teaching a beginning 
class in Ada myself, then having Ben Brosgol teach an 
advanced Ada class at our location last May.

Ten months into the project, the project leader announced
very abruptly that Ada would be scrapped, C++ would be used,
and there would be a six month slip in the project to permit
training in C++ and rewriting the  completed Ada code.  His 
reason - "There may not be any Ada programmers to do 
maintenance several years from now, but we will always be 
able to get C++ programmers."

I am obviously frustrated.  How can I continue to promote 
the use of Ada when the numbers mentioned in the first two 
paragraphs above indicate a lack of growth in Ada compared
to the other languages?  Any thoughts, either positive or
negative, will be appreciated.

Gordon Dodrill
Sandia National Laboratories - Albuquerque, New Mexico




             reply	other threads:[~1999-03-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-10  0:00 Gordon Dodrill [this message]
1999-03-10  0:00 ` The future of Ada robert_dewar
1999-03-10  0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-03-10  0:00   ` dewar
1999-03-10  0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-03-10  0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-10  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-10  0:00   ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-10  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-03-11  0:00   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-03-11  0:00 ` Michael Garrett
1999-03-12  0:00   ` vershokv
1999-03-26  0:00   ` John McCabe
1999-03-26  0:00     ` Mike Silva
1999-03-27  0:00       ` west
1999-03-27  0:00         ` John McCabe
1999-03-27  0:00           ` west
1999-03-28  0:00             ` John McCabe
1999-04-16  0:00               ` s.shering
1999-03-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-27  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-27  0:00         ` mjsilva
1999-03-27  0:00           ` west
1999-03-27  0:00             ` Chad R. Meiners
1999-03-27  0:00             ` mjsilva
1999-03-28  0:00             ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-29  0:00               ` Steve Quinlan
1999-03-29  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30  0:00                   ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30  0:00                     ` bourguet
1999-03-30  0:00                       ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30  0:00                       ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30  0:00                         ` dewar
1999-03-31  0:00                           ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-31  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-04-02  0:00                           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-03-30  0:00                         ` Stephen Thomas
1999-03-30  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-30  0:00                       ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-03-29  0:00                 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-30  0:00                   ` Ed Falis
1999-03-31  0:00           ` west
1999-04-01  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-01  0:00             ` Steve Doiel
1999-04-02  0:00               ` dennison
1999-04-02  0:00                 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-02  0:00                   ` kewick
1999-04-02  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-04-05  0:00                       ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-03  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-03-28  0:00         ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-28  0:00         ` Tom Moran
1999-03-27  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-28  0:00     ` David Botton
1999-03-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11  0:00   ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-11  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-11  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11  0:00       ` Mike Silva
1999-03-15  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-21  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-22  0:00             ` Mike Silva
1999-03-22  0:00               ` Gisle S�lensminde
1999-03-23  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-23  0:00                   ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-23  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-22  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-26  0:00             ` R. Rabeau
1999-03-26  0:00               ` Mike Silva
1999-03-11  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-11  0:00       ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-11  0:00         ` kirk
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Mike Silva
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Jerry Petrey
1999-03-12  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-15  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-12  0:00       ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12  0:00         ` steve
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Joseph P Vlietstra
1999-03-15  0:00             ` Mark D. McKinney
1999-03-13  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-14  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-11  0:00     ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-11  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11  0:00         ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-12  0:00         ` Gunther Dragoski
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12  0:00             ` Dino Gianisis
1999-03-13  0:00               ` Olivier Devuns
1999-03-12  0:00                 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12  0:00     ` Steve Whalen
1999-03-12  0:00   ` Al Christians
1999-03-12  0:00 ` Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-12  0:00   ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-13  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-15  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-13  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-03-12  0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1990-08-15 18:49 The Future " Edward V. Berard
1990-08-15 23:05 ` Michael Endrizzi 
1990-08-15 15:19 Michael Endrizzi 
1990-08-15 17:52 ` Jerry Callen
1990-08-17 17:21   ` Steve Vestal
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