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From: Marin David Condic <condicma@bogon.pwfl.com>
Subject: Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java
Date: 1999/02/09
Date: 1999-02-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36C055A1.C532E730@pwfl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 36BF8D71.99F33624@linkline.com

Fredric L. Rice wrote:
> 
> In the OS/2 world it does.  The VisualAge C+ compiler comes with a suit of
> APIs for launching and managing multi-threaded as well as multi-tasking (well,
> pseudo multitasking, I suppose) applications.
> 
The problem here is that you are looking at one implementation of the
language on one platform. In addition, it is not the "language" which is
giving you the feature - although in many people's minds there is no
distinction made. It is the OS which is providing the feature, with the
language merely giving you a method of connecting to the OS calls. On
WinNT at least, the Win32ada interface (supplied with GNAT 3.11p) gives
you that exact same capability.

Ada originally had a requirement (and still does) to be designed with a
high degree of portability in mind. Whatever features the language
standard specified needed to be done in such a way that they could be
implemented on just about anything from bare hardware, to PCs &
workstations to mainframes. To a very large extent, Ada has succeeded in
this goal. Just look at all the platforms to which GNAT is ported. And
then visit the web pages for Aonix, Green Hills, et alia to find even
more targets.

Ada's direct language support for multi-threading was necessary because
in the embedded, realtime world you are working on bare silicon and
basically have to write your own operating system. (Among other things,
that's what I do for a living :-) The availability of tasks makes this a
snap. If you are developing for machines running WinNT or Unix the
compiler will presumably (but is not required to) map the task
structures onto supporting OS calls. So with Ada, you get the ability to
do multi-threading in a wide array of environments with everything
looking identical to the programmer. C/C++ may give you that capability
indirectly by supplying you with an interface to the OS calls and you
can "roll your own", but this is quite obviously not easily ported, nor
is the knowledge/learning curve of the programmer. Yes, you can get
there from here, but its just easier with Ada.

MDC
-- 
Marin David Condic
Real Time & Embedded Systems, Propulsion Systems Analysis
United Technologies, Pratt & Whitney, Large Military Engines
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Thread overview: 450+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-12  0:00 Ada vs C++ vs Java Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Ken Keys
1999-01-14  0:00       ` John Woodruff
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Marc A. Criley
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-19  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-19  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Ralph Cook
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Bob Munck
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Dave Whipp
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Peter
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Corvus
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-14  0:00     ` John Birch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Pat Rogers
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-01-17  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00             ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-17  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` mll
1999-02-04  0:00                   ` mike
1999-02-04  0:00                     ` John McCabe
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` John McCabe
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Michael Stark
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-02-12  0:00                           ` Michael Stark
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-09  0:00                       ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-06  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Al Christians
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` William Clodius
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` Matt Austern
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-06  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-06  0:00                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` atomly
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-10  0:00                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-10  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` mike
1999-02-10  0:00                                       ` nabbasi
1999-02-10  0:00                                       ` Al Christians
1999-02-12  0:00                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-11  0:00                                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-12  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-13  0:00                                         ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-02-15  0:00                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-16  0:00                                           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-15  0:00                                       ` P.S. Norby
1999-02-16  0:00                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Fredric L. Rice
     [not found]                           ` <79fnce$iv8@drn.newsguy.c <36beecef.70d8ed5e@pwfl.com>
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-07  0:00                         ` James S. Rogers
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-07  0:00                             ` James S. Rogers
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-07  0:00                                 ` atomly
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Pascal Obry
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` Dan Nagle
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
1999-02-07  0:00                             ` Simon Wright
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` nabbasi
     [not found]                             ` <79 <36BF2098.11E0761B@erols.com>
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Bjarne Stroustrup
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                           ` <79k65l$s0t@drn.news <36c006b8.fc6c187d@acenet.com.au>
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                       ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-06  0:00                     ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` Andrew Koenig
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` P.S. Norby
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-02-06  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-09  0:00                           ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-17  0:00               ` Ell
1999-01-17  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00                 ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-17  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` adam
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` kevin
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-21  0:00                             ` adam
1999-01-23  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Michael Rubenstein
1999-01-19  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Lieven Marchand
1999-01-22  0:00                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                         ` adam
1999-01-23  0:00                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-01  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-01  0:00                               ` Al Christians
1999-02-02  0:00                                 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-24  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00                             ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-25  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-25  0:00                                 ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-27  0:00                     ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-27  0:00                       ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-27  0:00                       ` Instruction Set Semantics Nick Roberts
1999-01-28  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-28  0:00                       ` Ada vs C++ vs Java robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Bjarne Stroustrup
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Wolfgang Denk
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Herman
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-25  0:00             ` Real-time dyn allctn (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` Niklas Holsti
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` John Birch
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-27  0:00                   ` John Birch
1999-01-25  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-28  0:00                   ` dmitrik
1999-01-29  0:00                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Ada vs C++ vs Java John Birch
1999-01-15  0:00       ` James Kanze
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-17  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00             ` phil
1999-01-17  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00             ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00               ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Dynamic memory? (was Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` Ken Keys
1999-01-26  0:00                     ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                             ` news.oxy.com
1999-01-25  0:00                             ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-26  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Laurent Safa
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Richard Kenner
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                       ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Ada vs C++ vs Java robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00           ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00             ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00               ` James Kanze
1999-01-19  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` Draconian coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-19  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` Simon Wright
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` Bob Munck
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Crazy Pete
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00                 ` Judah Diament
1999-01-16  0:00                   ` bill
1999-01-16  0:00                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Judah Diament
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-17  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-26  0:00                       ` Enforcement of coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-26  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Dennis
1999-01-18  0:00             ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Peter Hend�n
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Christopher Browne
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Peter Hend�n
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` bourguet
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21  0:00                                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-22  0:00                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                         ` bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` dewar
1999-01-28  0:00                                                   ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                       ` John McCabe
1999-01-30  0:00                                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-30  0:00                                                           ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-25  0:00                                                 ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                   ` <36afc1ec.20165240@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-27  0:00                                                       ` dennison
     [not found]                                                       ` <36b019e5.897220@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-28  0:00                                                         ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                           ` <36b170cd.1793333@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                           ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-30  0:00                                                               ` John McCabe
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` Ada vs C++ vs Java bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-23  0:00                                             ` Simon Wright
1999-01-23  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` Simon Wright
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                                             ` dewar
     [not found]                                             ` <36af43e6.7584350@news.geccs.gecm.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <36b04b91.9547583@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                 ` Ada Mode wish list John McCabe
1999-01-26  0:00                                               ` Simon Wright
1999-01-22  0:00                                         ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
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1999-01-21  0:00                                       ` Stephen Leake
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                   ` Martin Dowie
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-18  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Chris Gray
1999-01-16  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00     ` Ken Keys
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Tov Are Jacobsen
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Corvus
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Herman
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-13  0:00       ` Michael Trausch
1999-01-14  0:00         ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-14  0:00           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Jeff Carter
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-16  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00         ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-20  0:00       ` Peter Flynn
     [not found]   ` <01be3f41$c1205ba0$5704fbd1@longslide>
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Tom Maier
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Vladyslav Kosulin
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1999-01-17  0:00       ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-20  0:00         ` Gerry Quinn
1999-01-13  0:00 ` John Woodruff
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Peter
1999-01-14  0:00     ` dennison
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-15  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Peter Sch�ller
1999-01-13  0:00   ` David Gillon
1999-01-24  0:00     ` Y2.1K (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-05  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Richard Krehbiel
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Dave Hansen
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` dennison
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-15  0:00         ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Emil Rojas
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Peter Amey
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Chris Gray
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Tom Maier
1999-01-21  0:00         ` Brent A Ellingson
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-15  0:00     ` Markus Kuhn
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Peter
1999-01-15  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Herman
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00     ` David R. Conrad
1999-01-15  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Bob Munck
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-01-16  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00         ` COBOL/Top-Down prog'g (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Patrick Wibbeler
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Peter Amey
1999-01-29  0:00         ` P.S. Norby
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Ken
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-27  0:00       ` Robert Garskof
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Jay O'Connor
1999-01-28  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-28  0:00             ` Joshua fit de wall
1999-01-29  0:00               ` Herman
1999-01-31  0:00             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
1999-01-31  0:00               ` him/her: was: " robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-14  0:00   ` dennison
1999-01-14  0:00   ` jim.hyslop
1999-01-15  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00 ` Pete Becker
1999-01-15  0:00   ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-15  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00     ` James Kanze
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Scott Johnson
     [not found] ` <01be3f5e$26453ca0$5704fbd1@longslide>
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Siamak Kaveh
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-18  0:00       ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00 ` Bruce Detter
1999-01-18  0:00   ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00     ` Bruce Detter
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Thanks everyone! (was Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-19  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-19  0:00           ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-19  0:00           ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Dr. Hubert B. Keller
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Roedy Green
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-01-13  0:00 Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1999-01-14  0:00   ` forsyth
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Network
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
     [not found] ` <369CF2CF.440F413C@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1999-01-16  0:00   ` bob
     [not found] <m3k8yhy6fe.fsf@fred.muc.de>
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-21  0:00   ` forsyth
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-25  0:00       ` Walter Mallory
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