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From: Hyman Rosen <hymie@prolifics.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Ada STL.  Reward: Ada's Future
Date: 1999/02/04
Date: 1999-02-04T18:04:51+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36B9E159.C072ECDA@prolifics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: u7lty3wpx.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov

Stephen Leake wrote:
> I thought Matthew just did that, but you haven't answered the question
> "why does the STL allow iteration past the end of the array". This
> bugs me too. Is there a real reason here, or is it an accident of the
> implementation?

STL iterators are analogous to C pointers; one goal of the STL design is to
be able to use C pointers as iterators in any STL algorithm. Given that C
allows a one-past-the-end pointer to an array, it becomes natural to
express
STL ranges as [i,j). This allows an entire array to be spanned, as well as
allowing an empty range to be easily specified.

> Perhaps it is the most general way to define an iterator that points
> to nothing? Certainly if the underlying implementation of a collection
> is an array, this makes sense. But if the underlying implementation is
> a list, then a null pointer makes more sense. Why not make the
> abstraction resemble a null pointer, rather than an out-of-bounds
> index?

Because you don't always want to operate on the entire container, of
course.
STL algorithms take a pair of iterators when they need a range specified,
and
this allows them to work on arbitrary sections of a container. Also, when
an
algorithm requires a bidirectional iterator, you can go back from a
past-the-end
iterator, but not from a null pointer.




  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-04  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-31  0:00 Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-01-31  0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-02-01  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00       ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Pointer Arithmetic (was: Wanted: Ada STL....) adam
1999-02-02  0:00       ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00         ` adam
1999-02-03  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00           ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Brian Rogoff
1999-02-02  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-03  0:00       ` John English
1999-02-03  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00               ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-06  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                         ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future) dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` dennison
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` Simon Wright
     [not found]                     ` <36ba730b.35540068@ <79fmg1$fn0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
     [not found]                     ` <79f24e$t14 <36BB4162.52FC6D9F@averstar.com>
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                 ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-09  0:00             ` micro_ada
1999-02-05  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-08  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-02-01  0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Michael F Brenner
1999-02-05  0:00 ` Corey Minyard
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