From: Roga Danar <smithm_nospam@XXX_nospam_stelnj.com>
Subject: Re: What ada 83 compiler is *best*
Date: 1998/12/09
Date: 1998-12-09T16:00:39+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <366EAD78.B2EB8B20@XXX_nospam_stelnj.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 74jnee$b9e$1@remarQ.com
Pat Rogers wrote:
> Roga Danar wrote in message
> <366D68CD.AFC12CAF@XXX_nospam_stelnj.com>...
> >Rick Thorne wrote:
> >
> >> I think one of the reasons Ada has failed so miserably in
> >> commercial US software development is precisely BECAUSE it is a
> standard
> >> the government has tried to bully on us.
> >
> > I could not agree more. This is the best point you have made.
> A language
> >choice should be made on real-world constraints. How much will I
> have to pay the
> >programmers? How many tools are there for a given platform or
> implementation? Is
> >the language by it's definition "safe" to use in critical systems?
>
> While I certainly agree that a reasoned choice should be made, based
> upon facts and not fad, I cannot agree that the government tried to
> "bully" their contractors. The policy was "use Ada or make a good
> argument for why not (i.e., make the case for a waiver)". That is
> certainly a reasonable approach for a customer to take -- their
> providers were using over 450 different languages and dialects. A
> similar situation would be if a given building were wired for 450
> different power levels; a phone system using 450 different
> protocols; and on and on. Trying to get things under control was a
> good idea. That doesn't mean Ada was/is perfect, or that other
> languages could not be justified, but this idea of Big Brother
> trying to "bully" their contractors is just silliness.
I should have been more clear. I have work much of my career under contracts
for DoD and have never felt any trying to bully me or the project. In fact, if
anything
there was pressure to go to C++ a couple of years ago on a navy project I was
on.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-12-03 0:00 What ada 83 compiler is *best* Rick Thorne
1998-12-03 0:00 ` marc j bejerano
1998-12-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-03 0:00 ` Gautier
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Marc A. Criley
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` David Gillon
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09 0:00 ` John McCabe
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Roga Danar
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Roga Danar [this message]
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-12-09 0:00 ` P.S. Norby
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-12-11 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-12-14 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-04 0:00 ` Ada rotting? (was: What ada 83 compiler is *best*) Roga Danar
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
[not found] ` <366D6BF8.B1F4C1C0@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07 0:00 ` David Botton
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-04 0:00 ` What ada 83 compiler is *best* Matthew Heaney
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
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1998-11-18 0:00 Nobody
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-11-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-11-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-11-18 0:00 ` dennison
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Gautier de Montmollin
1998-12-03 0:00 ` Roga Danar
1998-11-19 0:00 ` whiter5195
1998-11-23 0:00 ` Charlie McCutcheon
[not found] ` <36534040.F30A5E5B@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-11-21 0:00 ` Steve Kerr
1998-11-21 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1998-11-22 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
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