From: Marin David Condic <condicma@pwfl.com>
Subject: Re: What ada 83 compiler is *best*
Date: 1998/12/09
Date: 1998-12-09T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <366E97F8.776355C4@pwfl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m367blyi5l.fsf@mheaney.ni.net
Matthew Heaney wrote:
>
>
> I think their intentions were good, but the management of that process
> wasn't so good, and many programmers share the sentiment that the gov't
> was trying to ram Ada down their throats.
>
Lets keep in mind one factor: To a large extent "The Mandate" succeeded
in its primary goal. The U.S. Government {Read: "Yours and my tax
dollars" :-)} is no longer supporting 400-some-odd squirly programming
languages that were custom developed along with the processors/systems
they ran on. The Mandate did get the developers to stop looking at
building/supporting their own languages and either a) use Ada or b)
Select something "off the shelf" and justify it.
Remember that years ago, the guys who are today screaming that they can
only use C/C++ were the same guys who were screaming that C/Fortran/Etc.
were impossible to use on their custom little embedded board so they
*had* to go develop their own compiler for their own language or The
Whole World Will Come To An End!
What they were really saying was this: "I enjoy writing compilers. Let
me give you a bunch of bad reasons why I can't possibly use a 'standard'
language." What they are saying today is "I like using C/C++. Let me
give you a bunch of bad reasons why I can't possibly use Ada."
{Parenthetical note: The only good excuse for "Why I can't use Ada and
have to use C" that I've heard/used is this: "I have a C compiler for
this Whozits Processor Board that came with the board. There is no Ada
compiler and a port would cost too much/take too long/not have the whole
kitten kaboodle of support tools I've got with the C compiler that came
with this board."}
The world doesn't really change much, does it? :-)
MDC
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-12-03 0:00 What ada 83 compiler is *best* Rick Thorne
1998-12-03 0:00 ` Gautier
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` David Gillon
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09 0:00 ` John McCabe
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Marc A. Criley
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Roga Danar
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Roga Danar
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09 0:00 ` P.S. Norby
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-12-11 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-12-14 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-09 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-12-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-03 0:00 ` marc j bejerano
1998-12-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-04 0:00 ` Ada rotting? (was: What ada 83 compiler is *best*) Roga Danar
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-07 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
[not found] ` <366D6BF8.B1F4C1C0@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07 0:00 ` David Botton
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-09 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-07 0:00 ` What ada 83 compiler is *best* Jeff Carter
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-11-18 0:00 Nobody
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Rick Thorne
1998-11-18 0:00 ` dennison
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Gautier de Montmollin
1998-12-03 0:00 ` Roga Danar
1998-11-18 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-11-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-11-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-11-19 0:00 ` whiter5195
1998-11-23 0:00 ` Charlie McCutcheon
[not found] ` <36534040.F30A5E5B@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-11-21 0:00 ` Steve Kerr
1998-11-21 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1998-11-22 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
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