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From: Dave Wood <dpw@cts.com>
Subject: Re: Win32Ada
Date: 1998/11/15
Date: 1998-11-15T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <364EA0F6.A66B888F@cts.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 72iodh$9gq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com

dewar@gnat.com wrote:
> 
> In article <364BE12F.F38A285C@cts.com>,
>   dpw@cts.com wrote:
> > The curious thing is how this happened in the first place
> > If I understand the history correctly, Intermetrics made
> > the bindings through direct government funding, so how
> > did we get into a situation where taxpayers paid for
> > this, as they did GNAT, and yet have to get Bill's
> > permission to use it?  There must be some interesting
> > story there somewhere.

[Needless to say, nothing derogatory was intended
here - I was talking about the original GNAT 
investment, not whatever proprietary follow-on
has gone on since by ACT or anyone else.  By contrast, 
to my knowledge Win32Ada was 100% taxpayer funded, and 
IMHO ought to be a public resource.  Allowing rights
to an uninvolved 3rd party (Microsoft), seems 
completely nutty to me.]

> By the way, the total amount of government money spent on
> GNAT is far less than has been spent on other Ada
> technologies that the government has directly and
> indirectly funded, and most of those stay *completely*
> proprietary. I don't think the fact that tax payers pay
> for something has much to do with the tax payers getting
> free use!

I don't want to get into a protracted discussion 
on this since I have no special expertise in it
and you are doubtless one of the top-ranking
experts, but my gut instinct is that if something
is 100% funded by tax dollars, it ought to be 100%
in the control of the taxpayers or of their elected
representatives, at least if the creator of the
product has no intention to support and evolve it.  
I can see that an exception might be a flat-out 
grant where a priori there are no strings attached, 
such as for basic research.

I'm reminded of ALS, a big fat waste of tax money if
ever there was one (and how many of us had at least
some peripheral involvement with THAT mess?)  If I 
remember correctly, the government retained control 
of the resulting software and made it available on 
mag tape for something like $25, more or less cost 
of materials and shipping/handling.

Or, well, maybe I'm wrong.

-- Dave Wood, Aonix
-- Product Manager, ObjectAda for Windows
-- http://www.aonix.com




  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-11-15  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-11-11  0:00 Win32Ada BARDIN Marc
1998-11-11  0:00 ` Win32Ada Henri
1998-11-12  0:00 ` Win32Ada Jerry van Dijk
1998-11-12  0:00   ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-12  0:00     ` Win32Ada Dave Wood
1998-11-13  0:00       ` Win32Ada Dale Stanbrough
1998-11-14  0:00       ` Win32Ada dewar
1998-11-14  0:00         ` Win32Ada Jerry van Dijk
1998-11-14  0:00           ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-16  0:00             ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-16  0:00               ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-16  0:00                 ` Win32Ada Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-17  0:00                   ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-17  0:00                     ` Win32Ada Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-17  0:00                 ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-18  0:00                 ` Win32Ada Al Christians
1998-11-16  0:00         ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-16  0:00           ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-17  0:00             ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-20  0:00           ` Win32Ada Richard Kenner
1998-11-19  0:00             ` Win32Ada Al Christians
1998-11-20  0:00               ` Win32Ada Richard Kenner
1998-11-20  0:00               ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-20  0:00                 ` Software License Blather Al Christians
1998-11-21  0:00                   ` dewar
1998-11-21  0:00                 ` Win32Ada Richard Kenner
1998-11-23  0:00                   ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-23  0:00                     ` Win32Ada Richard Kenner
1998-11-20  0:00             ` Win32Ada dennison
1998-11-14  0:00       ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-15  0:00         ` Win32Ada Dave Wood
1998-11-15  0:00           ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-14  0:00       ` Win32Ada dewar
1998-11-14  0:00         ` Win32Ada Tom Moran
1998-11-15  0:00         ` Dave Wood [this message]
1998-11-15  0:00           ` Win32Ada dewarr
1998-11-15  0:00             ` Win32Ada Andi Kleen
1998-11-15  0:00               ` Win32Ada Al Christians
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-17  4:34 win32ada Aaron W. Myers
2003-07-17  8:51 ` win32ada Jerry van Dijk
2003-07-18  3:21 ` win32ada Steve
1996-03-21  0:00 Win32Ada Pascal OBRY
1996-03-21  0:00 ` Win32Ada Robert F. Estes
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Win32Ada Carl J R Johansson
1996-03-28  0:00     ` Win32Ada Ted Dennison
     [not found]       ` <4jf4uhINNsad@RA.DEPT.CS.YALE.EDU>
1996-03-29  0:00         ` Win32Ada Ted Dennison
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Win32Ada lrharris
1996-03-22  0:00 ` Win32Ada Wiljan Derks
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