From: pluto1@choice.net (Brian Mueller) Subject: Re: Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Date: 1998/10/23 Date: 1998-10-23T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview] Message-ID: <3630b064.23189339@news.supernews.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: 36228EC3.4F7381FD@domain.nul On 13 Oct 1998 00:12:49 GMT, last.first@domain.nul wrote: <...snip...> > >> -- Ada compilers were late, buggy, slow, too expensive, no libraries, .... > >And commercial Fortrans and Pascals were not? For some reason, ADA >became a bete noir; I suspect mostly because the CUSTOMER wanted it >and the vendors didn't want to spend any money on learning to do it. >Longterm thinking be dammed, what's the quarterly bottom line? Damned straight, freakin ObjectADA that I got for school has got to be the slowest thing I've ever worked with, and it frequently crashes....very frequently. > >> -- Ada was not C, thus perceived worthless for Unix and Windows. > >I've been of the opinion that compilers need to add internal error >checking since I got into this business: the standard "buffer >overflow"/"stack overflow" exploits in things like webservers just >demonstrates that even if the people who write the code probably KNOW >BETTER, they don't reliably implement error checks. > >Does this mean that C and C++ are bad per se? > >No: it just means that a lot of code goes into production systems >that does not implement error checking that freshman computer science >101 demanded one design and build in. >The idea of designing/building error checking into your code, at least >in CS101, has been pretty consistent over the years; the idea of not >bothering, since "it's just an irrelevent academic exercize, has also >been pretty common to language specific training over the years, too. I disagree, shit in my C.S. 101 programming class (which is guess what, ADA) my instructor took points OFF my first two projects because I implemented Error checking and handling (for constraint and invalid input errors). I would have to say that I said "fuck errors" for my third design. Well, they just taught me that error checking isn't a good thing. > >[The first time I took CS 101 was 1974, using PL1; I've retaken >selected CS, IS, and SE courses ever since: including the >introductory CS101 in 1991 (ISO Pascal), 1995 (Microsoft C), and 1997 >(JAVA) and noted that EVERY TIME they emphacized writing error >detecting/error tolerent code.] Well, it's 1998, I'm in C.S. 101 at the University of Cincinnati, RWC and we're learning how to badly code ADA (i.e. forget about code errors, concentrate on "design documents") Wish they would just teach me C, teach me GOOD C, teach me GREAT C, teach my how not to screw up C so I could write anything. Anyone wonder why the object ADA compiler and GUI program is written in C? Because with a bit of extra work FASTER programs can be written in C that do the same thing that ADA will do. > >ADA (and Pascal and Eiffel and half a dozen other unfashionable >languages) was a step in the direction of moving some of the neglected >portions of the software design/engineering/implementation process out >of the hands of the coder and into the realm of the automated tool >(i.e., the language's syntax forces it or the compiler does it for >you). > >> -- Mismanagement by the DOD. > >No argument there: establish a requirement and then arbitrarily >waiver the requirement is mismanagement. > >> -- No hyped technology that it could be piggybacked on. (Like C, Java) > >What's the relevance? > >The announced intent of ADA was to provide a way to produce better >(reliability/maintainability sense) code that could be reused. > >That the industry was/is still driven by coders using handicraft >worker's perspectives and by some (or most) upper management with a >"don't spend a penny that you don't have to since everything is based >on quarterly profit" perspective rather than not isn't exactly a >glowing review of the industry. > >> -- Winning cold war sucked most of the life out of the defense field. > >Maybe. Or maybe the lack of QRC program quick-fixes every 14 months >for mission critical threats isn't relevant. > >> >> So it was more like "Ada sucks! and ... this Hoare guys says so too!". >> >Sure: and we're still floundering on in an industry where pre-1970 >techniques such as DOCUMENTATION and VERSION CONTROL seem to be mostly >regarded as wasteful, unnecessary, or pointless. >> >> Jay Now that you bring that up, I got into trouble for having too many comment blocks in my code, WFT is this? I could have handed my project to anyone in that room and they would have been able to read it and understand what I was doing easily from my comments. I've always been told, the more, the better. I hate my C.S. class, can't wait until the spring when I get to take C (which I know a bit), and learn how to do it RIGHT. All my points have been based on my own experience, yours may differ, my point was. In my C.S. class I'm being told NOT to do error handling, we'll cover error handling in a few quarters, that's not until chaper 45.....etc. And that commenting your source is bad (he wants one comment block at the top of the program, with name, date, version, short description, that's it. It's not all us, it's our teachers, who are just about 80 years old, and want us to follow exactly what they did. PLUTO of ilL pluto1@choice.NOSPAM-NOSPAM.net C-ya
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1998-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Laurent GUERBY
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Andy Ward
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1998-08-14 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
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1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
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1998-08-15 0:00 ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1998-08-18 0:00 ` adam
1998-08-19 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
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1998-08-20 0:00 ` adam
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Nick Leaton
1998-08-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-30 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-08-30 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Agent
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Andrew Reilly
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-03 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
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1998-09-15 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-01 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-02 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-02 0:00 ` Ell
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1998-10-02 0:00 ` John I. Moore, Jr.
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1998-10-03 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-03 0:00 ` John I. Moore, Jr.
1998-10-05 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-06 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1998-10-06 0:00 ` Ell
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1998-10-03 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-10-05 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-04 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-05 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-05 0:00 ` Ell
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1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-03 0:00 ` John Goodsen
1998-10-02 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-03 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-04 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-05 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-05 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-06 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-05 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-08 0:00 ` s350817
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Ell
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1998-08-31 0:00 ` Ell
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Steven Perryman
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
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1998-08-31 0:00 ` Andrew Hussey
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Mattias Lundstr�m
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1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
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1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Chris Brand
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Rick Smith
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1998-09-08 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Rick Smith
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1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Gerhard Menzl
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Tres Seaver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` James Weirich
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01 0:00 ` John Volan
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Chris Saunders
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01 0:00 ` John Volan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Joe Gamache
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Optimizations (was: Software landmines (loops)) dennison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Richard D Riehle
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Dr Richard A. O'Keefe
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Al Christians
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Al Christians
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (long source) Tom Moran
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Really a U.S. thing? (Was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Brian Rogoff
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jean-Marc Jezequel
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
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1998-08-31 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Andrew Reilly
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Which wastes more time? (Was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Robert Huffman
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Andrew Reilly
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Paolo F. Cantoni
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Paolo F. Cantoni
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Paolo F. Cantoni
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1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
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1998-09-11 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Matthew Heaney
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
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1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
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1998-09-09 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
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1998-09-01 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Andre Tibben
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Moderators for life (was: Re: Software landmines) Martijn Meijering
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Moderators for life Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Ray Blaak
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
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1998-09-08 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-09 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17 0:00 ` [WAYRTW?] (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Zane Lewkowicz
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
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1998-09-06 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-09-02 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02 0:00 ` john-clonts
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-07 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Adrian P. Morgan
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10 0:00 ` mfinney
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1998-09-17 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <m31zpq4pim.fsf@mheaney.ni.ne <m3af36wtwh.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` john-clonts
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609980034390001@dialup26.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Rick Smith
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-10 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-13 0:00 ` last.first
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Brian Mueller [this message]
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-23 0:00 ` College, C, etc. (Was Re: Is there a language that Dijkstra liked?) Darren New
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Tom J
1998-10-23 0:00 ` K. Mathias
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1998-10-25 0:00 ` College, C, etc Frank Sergeant
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Paul A. Howes
1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-10-30 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) midlamD
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-23 0:00 ` DPH
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Michael Stark
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Bill Ghrist
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dewarr
[not found] ` <3 <slrn73ifd1.8ip.jdege@jdege.visi.com>
1998-10-30 0:00 ` College, C, etc Tom J
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Rod Chapman
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-13 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-17 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? Peter Hermann
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) bengt
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-09-19 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-19 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-19 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-19 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-11 0:00 ` spaghetti code(was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Joe Chacko
[not found] ` <01bddfb7$f3eac320$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-15 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Malcolm Steel
[not found] ` <o1fH1.543$495.1 <gwinn-0309982042490001@d8.dial-4.cmb.ma.ultra.net>
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-09 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-10 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
[not found] ` <01bddccc$98b2dda0$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11 0:00 ` alan walkington
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Linguistic invention (was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: " Gautier.DeMontmollin
[not found] ` <6sjnlu$83l$1@hirame.wwa.c <35EE5F67.80D@gecm.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Richard MacDonald
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Elliot's paranoia (was something relevent once, but no longer) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Biju Thomas
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
[not found] ` <35F074C9.E10C <35F2E907.594CD023@earthlink.net>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-10 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-11 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-12 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-13 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-14 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Christopher P. Gariepy
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Emtpy procedures (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` James Weirich
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Ken Carpenter
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Types vs classes (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Pat Rogers
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Dan Higdon
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mid-Loop 'Until' Proposal [was: Software landmines (loops)] John G. Volan
[not found] ` <Q7UH1.3152$re2.302134@news.giganews.com>
[not found] ` <35F2E055.6922B7EC@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) dennison
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982311220001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Fergus Henderson
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jonas M�ls�
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <6t6l4n$rep@jbm.nada.kth.se>
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <m3ogt3qgca.fsf@mheaney.ni.n <1dghyt5.oik1lzhxzf2N@n207167116176.inetworld.net>
1998-10-10 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-13 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-14 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-15 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-15 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-15 0:00 ` Indicators of program quality? (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Dan Higdon
[not found] ` <m33eagru5g.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Frank Adrian
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Structured programming (Re: Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful)) Darren New
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Larry Brasfield
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Phlip
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Larry Brasfield
[not found] ` <DOSXjHE9T6DM9Jw9nAyaPxfz@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>
1998-08-22 0:00 ` dewar
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-26 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25 0:00 ` adam
1998-08-24 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-22 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Bob Collins
1998-08-21 0:00 ` John Goodsen
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
[not found] ` <l5HC1.6840$wN.18 <35F238F7.F57D3EC7@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-10-21 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Van Snyder
1998-10-22 0:00 ` biocyn
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-26 0:00 ` dennison
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dennison
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-28 0:00 ` norm
1998-10-27 0:00 ` bill
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-11-04 0:00 ` business for students Domenico Bisignano
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Gerry Quinn
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Ell
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-18 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Optimizing recursion (was Re: Why C++ is successful) Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-08-26 0:00 ` Aaro Koskinen
1998-08-26 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-08-26 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-27 0:00 ` Constants vs Functions (was Re: Optimizing recursion...) Ray Blaak
[not found] ` <EACHUS.98Aug25165110@s <6s43nq$m31$1@berlin.infomatch.com>
1998-08-27 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Mr Ada
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-11 0:00 ` stilcom
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Microsoft Authors [was Re: Why C++ is successful] john-clonts
1998-08-11 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-11 0:00 ` John Weiss
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Code Complete (Was: Re: Why C++ is successful) Chris Kuan
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Andrew Koenig
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Stefan Tilkov
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m31zpxqutn.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC1590.D50DB8F6@tisny.com>
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shunm$47g$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` David E. Wallace
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m3zpck79xp.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6sjms6$7c4$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shhg4$llp$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <904556531. <m3lno372be.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EDC648.76F03F32@draper.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35F09429.1A7CD250@easystreet.com>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC937F.94420C51@ibm.net>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <35f51e53.480 <904556531.66622 <EyyLos.2nx@yc.estec.esa.nl>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-09 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-11 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-08 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Ell
[not found] ` <35f51e53.480<904556531.666222@ <6t42kg$son$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Phlip
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Jason Stokes
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-11 0:00 ` n
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful? Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` nasser
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-08-17 0:00 ` asilvant
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <35D455AC.9225EAA7@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert L. Spooner
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Darren New
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-10-14 0:00 Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) R. Kerr
1998-10-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-14 0:00 ` R. Kerr
1998-10-28 0:00 John Woodruff
1998-10-28 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
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