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From: ell@access.digex.net (Ell)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated
Date: 1998/10/13
Date: 1998-10-13T15:48:30+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3626743b.1281352@news.erols.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 36234afd.80326813@news.geccs.gecm.com

mark.bennison@gecm.com (Mark Bennison) wrote:

>mayp@falcon (Patrick May) thought long and hard and wrote:
>
>>In article <36210B47.6A5FE581@eiffel.com> Bertrand Meyer <Bertrand.Meyer@eiffel.com> writes:
>> > `comp.object.moderated' is a blatant attempt at censoring
>> > any non-conforming view on object technology.
>>
>>     The creation of comp.object.moderated is an attempt to maintain a
>>minimum level of civility in the discussion of OO technology.  The
>>charter does not allow censorship based on content.  This group has
>>been requested solely due to the pollution of comp.object by a single
>>prolific poster who makes some interesting points but wraps them in
>>flames, insults, and off-topic material.
>>
><snip>
>
>I've been reading this thread in comp.lang.ada and not all posts make
>it there so I may have missed something but... isn't the proposal for
>the creation of a /new/ group that is moderated? Surely the old group
>comp.object will still exist so I don't see how this can be construed
>as censorship since a forum for posting 'non-conforming' views still
>exists.
>
>Just my UKP0.02.

The point is the corralling of precious Usenet resources - mainly
bandwidth on Usenet servers - to promote the interests of a single
group and to undemocratically shield that group from criticism.

There is also the aspect that it becomes a Usenet "comp." group and
the above narrow motivation of the proposed moderated group does not
make it worthy of such designation.

Elliott

>
>Mark.
>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Patrick May

--
                :=***=:   VOTE  NO  TO  MODERATION!   :=***=: 
CRAFTISM SHOULD NOT USE USENET RESOURCES TO AVOID CRITICISM!
              MODERATORS SHOULD NOT HAVE LIFETIME TERMS!
        :=***=:  Objective  *  Pre-code Modelling  *  Holistic  :=***=:
                      Hallmarks of the best SW Engineering
  Study Phony Crafite OO vs. Genuine OO: http://www.access.digex.net/~ell
    Copyright 1998 Elliott. exclusive of others' writing. may be copied
      without permission only in the comp.* usenet and bitnet groups.




  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-10-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-10-09  0:00 RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Tim Ottinger
1998-10-13  0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00   ` James Robertson
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00       ` James Robertson
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Michi Henning
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Sven Sass
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-13  0:00             ` Charles Hixson
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Stephen Crawley
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Michi Henning
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Robert Oliver
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-14  0:00   ` Michi Henning
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Ell
1998-10-31  0:00 ` Ell
1999-07-29  0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-11  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1998-10-11  0:00   ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00   ` Patrick May
1998-10-12  0:00     ` Jason Stokes
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-12  0:00     ` David Franklin Reynolds
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00         ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-10-15  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Joachim Durchholz
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Patrick Doyle
1999-07-29  0:00         ` David Mescher
1999-07-29  0:00           ` J Durbin
1999-07-29  0:00           ` Jeff J. Wilson
1998-10-12  0:00     ` Avner Ben
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Jay Denebeim
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Mark Bennison
1998-10-13  0:00       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-13  0:00       ` Ell [this message]
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Gerhard Menzl
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Boris Schaefer
1998-10-16  0:00         ` Patrick Doyle
1999-07-29  0:00       ` Jay Denebeim
1998-10-12  0:00   ` Tim Ottinger
     [not found]   ` <363314e1.131092310@enews.newsguy.com>
1998-10-14  0:00     ` Phlip
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Boris Schaefer
1998-10-14  0:00     ` Kevin Szabo
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1999-07-29  0:00   ` Jay Denebeim
1999-07-29  0:00     ` Reposts of old news (was Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Kathy Pascoe
1999-07-30  0:00       ` Ell
1999-07-30  0:00         ` Jason Stokes
1999-07-30  0:00           ` Ell
1999-07-30  0:00             ` Jay Denebeim
1999-07-31  0:00               ` Ken Foskey
1999-07-30  0:00                 ` Reposts of old news Eric Clayberg
1999-07-31  0:00                 ` Reposts of old news (was Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Ell
1999-08-05  0:00                   ` Nic
1999-08-05  0:00                     ` universe
1999-07-30  0:00           ` Jason Stokes
1999-07-29  0:00   ` REPOST ATTACK (Was: " Jon Bell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-08-27  0:00 RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Tim Ottinger
     [not found] ` <H5oH1.634$495.190709860@newsreader.digex.net>
     [not found]   ` <35ee6ccb.0@news2.ibm.net>
1998-09-06  0:00     ` Ell
1998-09-07  0:00       ` Rolf F. Katzenberger
1998-09-07  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-08  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-07  0:00         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00           ` Rolf F. Katzenberger
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