From: sjw <simon.j.wright@mac.com>
Subject: Re: conversions between fixed-point types
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:41:15 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2009-09-25T13:41:15-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35adcbc7-dec6-45ae-bf80-1ebb7a058507@l35g2000vba.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4abc8389$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net
On Sep 25, 9:47 am, "Stuart" <stu...@0.0> wrote:
> "Adam Beneschan" <a...@irvine.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c8af7daf-9f00-4dbb-ad0d-9ca65e0a83d6@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Dirk Herrmann wrote:
>
> > > FpB'Image(FpB'(-1.5)) evaluates to -1.2
> > > FpB'Image(FpB(FpA'(-1.5))) evaluates to -1.2
> > > FpB'Image(MakeBFromA(FpA'(-1.5))) evaluates to -1.6
> > The answer is curious (and I'm not sure if it's what the language
> > designers intended). 4.9(38) says, ...
> ...
> > If FpB'Machine_Rounds is FALSE, though, the situation is interesting.
> > 4.9(38) requires that static expressions get *truncated* toward zero,
> > as I read it. But there's no similar requirement for expressions
> > computed at runtime.
>
> Having played with this on GNATPro 6.1.2 (to PC target) it does report
> FpB'Machine_Rounds as false. It also rounds values like -1.59999 down to
> -1.2 (which is a logical consequence). Technically this is still within the
> error bounds declared for FpB (delta 0.4) so it is not "wrong" within the
> rules of the language definition. But it is very counter-intuitive and is
> the sort of thing I find frustrating.
>
> I also tested the problem on GreenHills AdaMULTI (4.2.3 to PowerPC target);
> this gave FpB'Machine_Rounds as true and gave the more intuitive results.
>
> -1.5 -> -1.6
> -1.40001 -> -1.6
> -1.4 -> -1.2
>
> So although there does look to be a language "gotcha" here, it depends upon
> the compiler's choice of 'Machine_Rounds.
>
> --
> Stuart
This is all very weird. Can I point you to my earlier post at
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ada/msg/f79a71b9abe7e287
which (unless I'm deluded) shows GNAT rounding away from zero for
dynamic values even though 'Machine_Rounds is False!! (and I get the
same results on Ubuntu 8.04 with GNAT GPL 2008.
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-18 21:35 conversions between fixed-point types Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-18 22:42 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-09-19 12:41 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-19 14:48 ` John B. Matthews
2009-09-20 8:15 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 14:22 ` Robert A Duff
2009-09-20 18:55 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 20:34 ` Simon Clubley
2009-09-23 20:46 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-27 17:15 ` Simon Clubley
2009-09-27 19:22 ` sjw
2009-09-28 20:18 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-28 18:37 ` Robert A Duff
2009-09-28 20:50 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 15:18 ` John B. Matthews
2009-09-20 19:13 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 20:09 ` tmoran
2009-09-21 17:24 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-23 20:57 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-23 22:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-24 1:05 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-09-24 3:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-25 8:47 ` Stuart
2009-09-25 20:41 ` sjw [this message]
2009-09-25 21:58 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-28 13:40 ` Stuart
2009-09-26 14:43 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-28 15:15 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-09-26 14:31 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-19 18:38 ` tmoran
2009-09-20 8:22 ` sjw
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