From: John Volan <johnv@ac3i.dseg.ti.com>
Subject: Re: Naming of Tagged Types and Associated Packages
Date: 1998/08/10
Date: 1998-08-10T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35CFB300.242CC40D@ac3i.dseg.ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.3.96.980810163352.29141A-100000@shell5.ba.best.com
Brian Rogoff wrote:
>
> Well, its definitely lexically distinguishable in a case sensitive
> language, but as I said earlier, I find it aesthetically unappealling to
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> rely on case alone for the distinction. Even in C and Java, I use
> more than case to distinguish. Personally, I don't mind a little
> redundancy, and I find all of this talk of "noise" in the type name really
> funny, as though its somehow really difficult for the reader to deal with
> this _Type business.
Although I don't count myself among them [*], I'm pretty sure that the
people who object to the "_Type" convention in Ada do so not because
they feel that this "noise" somehow reduces understandability, but
rather purely as a matter of taste. To them, having a type name _say_
that it is a type name, when this fact can simply be deduced from
context, or by looking up the declaration, amounts to "catering to the
programming language". This seems to disturb their aesthetic
sensibilities somehow -- just as relying on case distinctions seems to
disturb your aesthetic sensibilities, Brian.
[*] I should say, I don't object to "_Type" -- and indeed I advocate it
-- if one is programming in Ada. It seems to be the best compromise
given the properties of that language. On the other hand, if one is
programming in Java, C++, Eiffel, or Smalltalk, I'd advocate exploiting
case conventions for all they're worth, and don't bother with "_Type".
> However, as I also said, if I were to use Eiffel or a similar language
> long enough, I'm pretty sure I'd get used to it, even if I don't like
> that convention now.
Exactly.
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1998-07-16 0:00 Naming of Tagged Types and Associated Packages taashlo
1998-07-25 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-25 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-25 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-26 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-26 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-26 0:00 ` nabbasi
1998-07-26 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-07-27 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-27 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1998-07-27 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-27 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Chris Brand
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-30 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-30 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-03 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-04 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-04 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-04 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-05 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-14 0:00 ` adam
1998-08-05 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-07 0:00 ` doylep
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-10 0:00 ` doylep
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-10 0:00 ` John Volan [this message]
1998-08-10 0:00 ` John Volan
1998-08-11 0:00 ` doylep
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Bob Collins
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-18 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-17 0:00 ` doylep
1998-08-19 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-08 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-10 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1998-08-11 0:00 ` geoff
1998-08-11 0:00 ` John Volan
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-09-07 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-11 0:00 ` doylep
1998-08-05 0:00 ` Static Polymorphism (Was Re: Naming of Tagged Types...) Brian Rogoff
1998-08-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-06 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Naming of Tagged Types and Associated Packages Brian Rogoff
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1998-08-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-06 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-27 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-28 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-29 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-30 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-07-31 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-04 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
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1998-07-26 0:00 tmoran
1998-07-27 0:00 ` dennison
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