From: Jay Martin <jaymmartin@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Why C++ is successful
Date: 1998/08/02
Date: 1998-08-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35C42762.4F8D89C2@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3d8akuriz.fsf@mheaney.ni.net
Matthew Heaney wrote:
>
> Jay Martin <jaymmartin@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Look at the Ada Booch components, not a single "free" in the whole
> > library. Surely, he Booch was expecting GC.
>
> This is incorrect.
Booch did expect GC:
"Unmanaged -> Automatic garbage collection is the responsibility
of the underlying run time system and compiler."
> His reason for not using Free is NOT because he was "expecting GC." He
> explains in his book that he didn't use Unchecked_Deallocation because
> it is non-portable.
Which turned out to be a technical mistake, because
I didn't remember a (non-embedded system) Ada compiler that did
not implement "Unchecked_Deallocation". Imagine
the ridicule from C programmers: "You can call malloc
but you can't even call free!."
> The Booch components had a very specific taxonomy. Only "unmanaged"
> components expect a garbage collector. The "managed" forms do their own
> garbage collection (using a storage manager, another component).
Which excepting multi-tasking and fixed sized forms, made up for
roughly half the Booch components, over a 100
component permutation banking on GC.
Jay
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1998-07-28 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Rakesh Malhotra
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Dave Martin
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-29 0:00 ` John McCabe
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-07-29 0:00 ` falis
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-07-31 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
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1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Juan Carlos Gil Montoro
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
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1998-07-29 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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1998-08-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
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1998-08-15 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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1998-08-17 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Mr Ada
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