From: Charles Hixson <charleshixson@earthling.net>
To: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: Why C++ is successful
Date: 1998/07/29
Date: 1998-07-29T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35BF49E8.136D75C2@earthling.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.3.96.980729073204.24484B-100000@shell5.ba.best.com
But what Ada REALLY needs is a good garbage collection mechanism. And
saying "Do it by hand" doesn't qualify as good!
Brian Rogoff wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Pat Rogers wrote:
> > Dave Martin wrote:
> ... snip ...
> > >
> > >Personally, for the last several years i've been trying to detect my
> > >own hidden assumptions and biases, and nullify them. I never want to
> > >turn into the old dog who can't learn new tricks or becomes closed-
> > >minded to something simply because its different. Unfortunately I
> > >haven't always been successful, but i'm trying.
> >
> > That's why I'm learning Java now, and Eiffel and C++ in the past. They all
> > contribute something to make one a better developer. I need to take another
> > look at Fortran, because it sure isn't the Fortran IV I used in the old
> > days!
>
> I don't want to discourage anyone from learning new things, but IMO Java,
> Ada, C++, and Eiffel are not really all that different, I'd even say they
> are pretty close in the whole space of programming languages. Why not try
> a few really different languages, like:
>
> (1) A logic language, like Prolog or Mercury
> (2) A functional language, like OCaml, Haskell, or Scheme
> (3) An OO language with multimethods, like Common Lisp
> (4) Any of a number of interesting other languages, like Forth, Icon, ...
>
> This isn't meant as a disagreement with Pat Rogers. I actually like Ada
> and think it is worth knowing, just that if you want to stretch your mind
> and are not solely interested in getting a job using some particular
> language, it might be worth it to you to consider a wider range.
>
> -- Brian
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Charles Hixson charleshixson@earthling.net
(510) 464-7733 or chixso@mtc.dst.ca.us
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1998-07-28 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Rakesh Malhotra
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Dave Martin
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Rakesh Malhotra
1998-07-29 0:00 ` John McCabe
1998-07-29 0:00 ` nabbasi
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Michael Young
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Juan Carlos Gil Montoro
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-07-30 0:00 ` dennison
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-07-29 0:00 ` John McCabe
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Charles Hixson [this message]
1998-07-29 0:00 ` falis
1998-07-30 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-07-31 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-01 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Ell
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-07-29 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-06 0:00 Robert Dewar
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1998-08-06 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
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1998-08-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
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1998-08-08 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
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1998-08-12 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1998-08-18 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1998-08-15 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-15 0:00 ` Mr Ada
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-18 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1998-08-11 0:00 ` stilcom
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1998-08-14 0:00 ` Stefan Tilkov
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