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From: "Stanley R. Allen" <s_allen@hso.link.com>
Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement
Date: 1998/03/03
Date: 1998-03-03T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34FC52DF.6201@hso.link.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: matthew_heaney-ya023680000303980104550001@news.ni.net


Matthew Heaney wrote:
> 
> [the sad history of anti-Ada statements by influential people]
>

What I want to know is: where are they now?  Now that
C++ is gaining ground in areas where Ada has some footholds
(large, real-time, embedded, safety-critical), where are
the articles and speeches by "big names" denouncing C++,
the urban sprawl of programming languages?

The folks who criticized Ada at the beginning because it
didn't match their ideas of an "ideal" programming language,
and whose comments helped to cramp the acceptance of the
language, should consider whether C++ is a better match.

A lot of those early comments by language researchers
who "warned the committee about the bad path Ada is
taking" sound suspiciously like academic sour grapes.
"Those Ada proponents didn't incorporate *my* ideas
into the programming language."  Whaaaa!  Their
conclusions can be considered foregone.

Well, they got their way -- Ada became marginalized.
Nature, abhoring a vacuum, ushered in the era of C/C++.
I find it hard to believe that their current silence 
about this result can be considered benign approval.

I challenge any of the academics who criticized Ada for
being "too complex" to come out in favor of C++ over
Ada today.

-- 
Stanley Allen
mailto:s_allen@hso.link.com




  reply	other threads:[~1998-03-03  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-02-15  0:00 Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-15  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Ralph Paul
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00       ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-19  0:00               ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-20  0:00                 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-03-05  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-18  0:00             ` vonhend
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-22  0:00               ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-17  0:00             ` Dan Moran
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-19  0:00             ` John English
1998-02-22  0:00               ` Luis Espinal
1998-02-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-23  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-24  0:00                     ` Jonas Nygren
1998-02-24  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-25  0:00                         ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-25  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1998-02-20  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-20  0:00               ` Laurent Guerby
1998-03-03  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-03-03  0:00                 ` Stanley R. Allen [this message]
1998-02-19  0:00           ` Ada's complexity Steve Furlong
1998-02-20  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Andi Kleen
1998-02-17  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17  0:00       ` Geert Bosch
1998-02-19  0:00         ` Parsing Ada and C++ Steve Furlong
1998-02-16  0:00 ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement nabbasi
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16  0:00     ` nabbasi
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1998-02-18  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
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