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From: The Goobers <docdwarf@erols.com>
To: dogmat <macdonaldrj@bv.com>
Subject: Re: Philosophers
Date: 1998/02/04
Date: 1998-02-04T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34D84B40.1AD3@erols.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 01bd2cc0$f0042b70$7261b693@HP5079Q


dogmat wrote:
> 
> The Goobers <docdwarf@erols.com> wrote in article
> <34CFDD2F.4621@erols.com>...
> > Your quibble is acceptable if and only if consistency is something which
> > occurs at a point ('at any one time').  If one needs a line, curve, or
> > more complex construct in order to gauge consistency then your quibble
> > is quickly, quite querulously, quashed.
> >
> > DD
> >
> If consistency is something which occurs at a point, isn't a line or curve
> just a collection of
> points, so consistency occurs along the curve as well?

This is what I was trying to demonstrate; if consistency occurs at a
point, if one can speak of the 'consistency' of something which is, by
definition, discontinuous (a point is that which has no part, as Euclid
tells us) then the argument is valid and holds not only for points but
for collections of points (lines and curves) as well.  If one needs more
than one instance of discontinuity (point) to demonstrate inconsistency
then 'more than one point' also, by definition, defines at least a line,
if not a curve.


> Define X as the
> domain space of the
> "variables" of the game. Define H as the set of rules which constrain the
> variables X (H size <= X size).
> Therefore, the "trajectory" of the game must be a curve in the space of X
> such that H is satisfied.
> A rule change would certainly render the curve as first-order discontinous.
> However, it might be
> zeroth-order continuous, i.e., no step-change.
> 
> OTOH, Calvinball had the ability to change the domain space itself, so the
> game jumps from one domain
> space to another.

But Calvinball *is* limited in domain-space by the panels of the strip;
if it goes beyond those it then becomes (Heaven forbid)... Nancyball or
MaryWorthball.

> The question is whether or not this jump is continuous or
> not. To study this, we would
> have to define Xsuper as the union of all the possible domain spaces, and
> look at the trajectory in Xsuper.
> And it is quite possible that Xsuper does not exist, as certain rule
> changes rendered the previous domain
> invalid.

You mean... FamilyCircusball?  Aaiiieeeeeee!

> 
> Hmm. I withdraw my previous assertion. Perhaps we should pass this problem
> along to the game theorists.
> Now what newsgroup is that?

Game theorists do not have a newsgroup, they are all busy planning tours
to Las Vegas.

DD




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1997-12-12  0:00 ` Which language pays most 17457 -- C++ vs. Java? Roedy Green
1997-12-17  0:00   ` Wes Groleau
1997-12-16  0:00     ` steve
1997-12-18  0:00       ` Alicia Carla Longstreet
1997-12-17  0:00         ` steve
1997-12-19  0:00           ` Larry Elmore
1997-12-19  0:00             ` James Giles
     [not found]         ` <01bd0c0b$53cc1860$26db45cf@juddesk>
1997-12-17  0:00           ` steve
1997-12-18  0:00           ` Peter Seebach
1997-12-17  0:00             ` steve
1997-12-19  0:00               ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-17  0:00                 ` steve
1997-12-22  0:00               ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-21  0:00                 ` steve
1997-12-28  0:00                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-18  0:00             ` James Giles
1997-12-17  0:00               ` steve
1997-12-19  0:00                 ` James Giles
1997-12-18  0:00                   ` steve
1997-12-19  0:00                     ` James Giles
1997-12-18  0:00                       ` steve
1997-12-19  0:00                         ` James Giles
1997-12-22  0:00                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-21  0:00                         ` James Giles
1997-12-21  0:00                           ` steve
1997-12-30  0:00                             ` Chris Gray
1997-12-28  0:00                           ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-28  0:00                             ` John Winters
1997-12-30  0:00                             ` paulr
1997-12-31  0:00                               ` Which language pays most " arnie sherman
1997-12-30  0:00                                 ` Dann Corbit
1997-12-31  0:00                                 ` John Slaman
     [not found]                                   ` <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net>
1998-01-06  0:00                                     ` Jedi
1998-01-10  0:00                                     ` Highlander Consulting
1998-01-11  0:00                                       ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-11  0:00                                         ` Barrabazz
1998-01-11  0:00                                           ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-12  0:00                                           ` Ron Peterson
1998-01-14  0:00                                             ` anonymous
1998-01-19  0:00                                               ` Joe Gwinn
     [not found]                                                 ` <01bd2526$66b70fa0$d6d945cf@juddesk>
1998-01-23  0:00                                                   ` dnns
1998-01-23  0:00                                                     ` Philosophers Nick Roberts
1998-01-23  0:00                                                       ` Spam--> was:Re: Philosophers Dann Corbit
1998-01-24  0:00                                                         ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-26  0:00                                                           ` Doug Miller
1998-01-24  0:00                                                       ` Philosophers John G.
     [not found]                                                         ` <Pine.LNX.3.95. <34cd2808.10685219@newsroom.tassie.net.au>
1998-01-28  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers docdwarf
     [not found]                                                             ` <01bd2c40$b62837a0$7261b693@HP5079Q>
1998-01-28  0:00                                                               ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-02-01  0:00                                                                 ` Philosophers Scott Adams
     [not found]                                                                 ` <01bd2cc0$f0042b70$7261b693@HP5079Q>
1998-02-04  0:00                                                                   ` The Goobers [this message]
1998-02-10  0:00                                                                 ` Back to the topic of CS students. (was Re: Philosophers) cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                                                   ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-30  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers jim
1998-01-30  0:00                                                               ` Philosophers Samuel Mize
1998-01-30  0:00                                                               ` Philosophers docdwarf
1998-01-30  0:00                                                                 ` Philosophers suzie
1998-01-30  0:00                                                                   ` Philosophers docdwarf
1998-01-31  0:00                                                                 ` Philosophers Martin Richardson
1998-01-31  0:00                                                                   ` Philosophers Jeff York
1998-02-01  0:00                                                                     ` Philosophers Martin Richardson
1998-02-02  0:00                                                                       ` Philosophers Jeff York
1998-02-02  0:00                                                                       ` Philosophers Eddie Armstrong
1998-02-03  0:00                                                                         ` Philosophers Nyk Tarr
1998-02-02  0:00                                                                       ` Philosophers Pat O'Connell
1998-02-02  0:00                                                                     ` Philosophers Robert Garskof
1998-02-02  0:00                                                                       ` Philosophers Dave Tholen
1998-02-10  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers cyanide
1998-02-09  0:00                                                               ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-02-18  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers Mad Hamish
1999-07-29  0:00                                                         ` Philosophers firewind
1998-01-24  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers John G.
1998-02-10  0:00                                                             ` Drifting further off topic cyanide
1998-01-25  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers Jens Schweikhardt
1998-01-28  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers Mad Hamish
1998-01-27  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers Kurt Wall
1998-01-24  0:00                                                       ` Philosophers Mike Whiten
1998-01-24  0:00                                                         ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-01-25  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers Arnold Trembley
1998-01-25  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-01-26  0:00                                                           ` :-) Philosophers Giovanni Drogo [drogo@rn.bastiani.it]
1998-01-29  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers Steve Dekorte
1998-01-29  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-01-27  0:00                                                     ` Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Robert Garskof
1998-01-28  0:00                                                 ` Steve Dekorte
1998-01-28  0:00                                                   ` Barrabazz
1998-01-28  0:00                                                     ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                                                       ` Tim Oxler
1998-01-29  0:00                                                       ` Tim Oxler
1998-01-29  0:00                                                       ` Joe Gwinn
1998-01-29  0:00                                                         ` Wayne L. Beavers
1998-01-29  0:00                                                           ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-03  0:00                                                           ` GLE
1998-02-03  0:00                                                             ` Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
1998-02-03  0:00                                                             ` The Goobers
1998-01-29  0:00                                                         ` coryb
1998-01-30  0:00                                                         ` Robert S. White
1998-01-30  0:00                                                           ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-31  0:00                                                           ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1998-02-01  0:00                                                             ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-09  0:00                                                         ` cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                                           ` Bill Lynch
1998-02-10  0:00                                                             ` Jeff Knaggs
1998-02-10  0:00                                                             ` Michael Rot13 Klein
1998-02-10  0:00                                                           ` dogmat
1998-02-09  0:00                                                       ` cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                                         ` dogmat
1999-07-29  0:00                                                       ` Edwin Purvee
     [not found]                                                     ` <01bd2c3c$6726d520$8101b8c7@MIS-RKW95.spartan.com>
1998-02-10  0:00                                                       ` Steve Dekorte
1998-02-10  0:00                                                         ` Bill Lynch
1998-02-11  0:00                                                         ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                                                   ` Joe Gwinn
1998-01-31  0:00                                                 ` Larry Wiggins
1999-07-29  0:00                                                   ` Ben Pfaff
1999-07-29  0:00                                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                                                 ` <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip <01bd2c3c$6726d520$8101b8c7@MIS-RKW95.spartan.com>
1998-02-02  0:00                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-02-02  0:00                                                     ` Michael C. Kasten
1998-02-02  0:00                                                 ` This thread has drifted miles from its subject line Wes Groleau
     [not found]                                                 ` <6alu5l$ <34D6243C.2A53@gc057.fw.hac.com>
1998-02-05  0:00                                                   ` Paul Osborn
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1998-02-11  0:00                                                   ` Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Kaz Kylheku
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1998-01-24  0:00                                                 ` Philosophers Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                                               ` <gwinn-1901981219520001@dh5055142. <34CE059C.634DE881@snet.com>
1998-01-27  0:00                                                 ` Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-28  0:00                                                   ` Robert Garskof
     [not found]                                               ` <gwinn-1901981219520001@dh5055142. <34C9F3D0.6B5A@erols.com>
1998-01-28  0:00                                                 ` Philosophers Warren B. Focke
1998-01-29  0:00                                                   ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-02-05  0:00                                                     ` Philosophers Warren B. Focke
1998-02-05  0:00                                                       ` Philosophers The Goobers
1998-02-06  0:00                                                         ` Philosophers dogmat
1998-02-06  0:00                                                           ` Philosophers docdwarf
1998-02-06  0:00                                                             ` Philosophers dogmat
1998-02-06  0:00                                                               ` Philosophers docdwarf
1998-02-06  0:00                                                       ` Philosophers Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
1998-02-10  0:00                                                         ` Film "Contact" Nick Roberts
1998-02-09  0:00                                             ` Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? cyanide
1998-01-11  0:00                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-11  0:00                                         ` Carsten Arnholm
1998-01-15  0:00                                         ` Highlander Consulting
1998-01-16  0:00                                         ` Charles F Hankel
1999-08-09  0:00                                         ` Paul Groves
1999-08-09  0:00                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-02  0:00                                 ` Philip Hunt
1997-12-31  0:00                             ` Which language pays most 17457 " Guillermo Schwarz
1997-12-31  0:00                               ` Billy Chambless
1998-01-03  0:00                                 ` Berna L Massingill
1998-01-04  0:00                               ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-19  0:00                   ` Peter Seebach
1997-12-19  0:00                     ` James Giles
1997-12-18  0:00                       ` steve
1997-12-23  0:00                       ` Guillermo Schwarz
1997-12-18  0:00         ` John Seitz
1997-12-18  0:00           ` Robert Robbins
1997-12-19  0:00             ` Mark Wilden
1997-12-19  0:00           ` Ian Upright
1997-12-19  0:00             ` William Murray
1997-12-19  0:00               ` steve
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1997-12-20  0:00                   ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-20  0:00                     ` William J. Leary Jr.
1997-12-20  0:00                       ` Kurt Watzka
1997-12-20  0:00                         ` William J. Leary Jr.
1997-12-21  0:00                           ` Peter Seebach
1997-12-21  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1997-12-21  0:00                         ` William J. Leary Jr.
1997-12-22  0:00                           ` Peter Seebach
1997-12-22  0:00                         ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-22  0:00                           ` Kurt Watzka
1997-12-28  0:00                             ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-22  0:00                           ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-24  0:00                           ` John Porter
1997-12-24  0:00                             ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-27  0:00                               ` Which language pays most? Smalltalk, not C++ nor Java Guillermo Schwarz
1997-12-27  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-29  0:00                                   ` John Porter
1997-12-29  0:00                                     ` Lawrence Kirby
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1997-12-29  0:00                                       ` Billy Chambless
1997-12-30  0:00                                       ` Jeffrey Templon
1997-12-30  0:00                                         ` Patricia Shanahan
1997-12-30  0:00                                           ` Charles R Martin
1998-01-03  0:00                                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-29  0:00                                     ` Patricia Shanahan
1997-12-29  0:00                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-29  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
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1997-12-29  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-30  0:00                                           ` Billy Chambless
1997-12-31  0:00                                         ` David Thornley
1997-12-31  0:00                                           ` Keith G. Murphy
1998-01-01  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-01  0:00                                             ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-02  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-02  0:00                                                 ` Peter Seebach
1998-01-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-02  0:00                                                   ` firewind
1998-01-02  0:00                                                     ` Ian Piumarta
1998-01-03  0:00                                                     ` Richard Kenner
1998-01-02  0:00                                           ` Shelly Mujtaba
1998-01-02  0:00                                             ` Guillermo Schwarz
1998-01-03  0:00                                               ` Jacqueline U. Robertson
1998-01-03  0:00                                               ` Dean Roddey
1998-01-03  0:00                                                 ` Jacqueline U. Robertson
1998-01-03  0:00                                                   ` Dean Roddey
1998-01-05  0:00                                                     ` Guillermo Schwarz
1998-01-05  0:00                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-03  0:00                                         ` Lawrence Kirby
1998-01-28  0:00                                     ` SmallTalk Execute files Thaminda Erangane Perera
1998-01-28  0:00                                       ` Dann Corbit
1998-01-29  0:00                                         ` Griff Lewis
1997-12-27  0:00                                 ` Which language pays most? Smalltalk, not C++ nor Java Joshua Waxman
1997-12-27  0:00                                 ` Patricia Shanahan
1997-12-28  0:00                                 ` Kurt Watzka
1997-12-29  0:00                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-29  0:00                                   ` Guillermo Schwarz
1997-12-29  0:00                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-30  0:00                                     ` Billy Chambless
1997-12-30  0:00                                     ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-30  0:00                                       ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-03  0:00                                         ` Lawrence Kirby
1998-01-03  0:00                                           ` Patricia Shanahan
1997-12-30  0:00                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-30  0:00                                     ` Joshua Waxman
1997-12-30  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-30  0:00                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-30  0:00                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-12-30  0:00                                         ` Joshua Waxman
1997-12-30  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-30  0:00                                           ` Dann Corbit
1997-12-31  0:00                                             ` David Thornley
1997-12-31  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-31  0:00                                             ` John Porter
1997-12-31  0:00                                               ` Jon S Anthony
1998-01-02  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-30  0:00                                       ` firewind
1997-12-30  0:00                                         ` Joshua Waxman
1997-12-31  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-31  0:00                                         ` Brock
1997-12-31  0:00                                           ` Joshua Waxman
1997-12-31  0:00                                           ` Dann Corbit
1998-01-01  0:00                                           ` firewind
1997-12-29  0:00                                 ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-02  0:00                                 ` Tor Iver Wilhelmsen
1997-12-25  0:00                             ` Which language pays most 17457 -- C++ vs. Java? Kurt Watzka
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