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From: Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Artistically creative expression has no role in software design
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:30:50 +0200
Date: 2004-07-21T11:30:50+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3455596.97EDm5dujQ@linux1.krischik.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 157lmx3vx3yea$.1thsads2cv8rx.dlg@40tude.net

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:28:06 +0200, Martin Krischik wrote:
> 
>> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> 
>>> What about UML and other languages intended for solely human readers?
>>> 
>>> [Amateur: Documents written in those languages are not programs?]
>> 
>> Well, a super duper code generator could create quite a lot of program
>> from UML - and could be considered a programming language. However I have
>> not seen one yet.
>> 
>> All UML generators I have seen generate only from the Class view. They do
>> not create from the activity or state charts.
>> 
>> IBM's Visual Age (for Smalltalk, C++ and Java) has shown that it is
>> possible to generate classes with there appropriate activity's as well.
> 
> Right, but the author emphasizes that possibility is nothing, intent and
> purpose is everything:
> 
> "... While people trained in software may read the source code of computer
> programs, this is done for no other purpose than to understand how the
> programs work. Hence, it can be said that computer programs are only
> literary works in form, whereas in substance they are technology for using
> computers. Consequently, the fact that source code reads like the English
> language gives the wrong impression as to its true nature."
> 
> In his logic an ability to generate code from UML just "gives the wrong
> impression"...

But I was trying to answer the question in the [] ;-). - UML Documents are
programs - just on a different abstraction level.

With Regards

Martin
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-21  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-19 18:46 Artistically creative expression has no role in software design Marc A. Criley
2004-07-19 18:56 ` Ed Falis
2004-07-19 19:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-07-19 23:24   ` Marc A. Criley
2004-07-20  0:27   ` Nick Roberts
2004-07-20  7:40     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-07-20 15:24       ` Nick Roberts
2004-07-20 16:00       ` Marc A. Criley
2004-07-20 18:46         ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-07-20 22:41           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-08-09 16:14       ` Richard  Riehle
2004-07-19 20:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-07-19 23:27   ` Marc A. Criley
2004-07-20  9:05     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-07-20  0:31 ` Nick Roberts
2004-07-20  1:45 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-07-20  8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-07-20 14:28   ` Martin Krischik
2004-07-20 15:02     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-07-20 18:02       ` Wes Groleau
2004-07-21  9:30       ` Martin Krischik [this message]
2004-07-21 20:22     ` Simon Wright
2004-07-23  8:00     ` Rolf Ebert
2004-07-23 21:04       ` Simon Wright
2004-07-21 20:17   ` Simon Wright
2004-07-21 22:15     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-07-23 20:59       ` Simon Wright
2004-07-21  1:05 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-07-21  1:17   ` Ed Falis
2004-07-21  3:44     ` tmoran
2004-07-21  4:09     ` tmoran
2004-07-21  9:38   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-07-22 14:11   ` Marc A. Criley
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