From: "Brett J. Stonier" <bretts@brightwood.com>
Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake)
Date: 1997/08/29
Date: 1997-08-29T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3406E627.2753F2CF@brightwood.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5u5m5b$7q6$1@news2.digex.net
Ell wrote:
> No it isn't. You can win with an inferior product due to other
> factors.
> The overwhelming evidence of which some refuse to accept.
Elliot -
You continue to miss the point. Nobody is saying that inferior products
can't win out over better ones; look at Microsoft, for god's sake! But,
when this happens, you can usually find marketing or other mistakes that
were made by the better technology providers.
This "low road" method of runner-up marketing is a mistake for Eiffel
proponents, IMHO, just as it has failed to help other "runner-ups" in
other industrys to gain the dominance they seek. At this point, its
fueling a self-fulfilling prophecy of obsolesence. Learn from these
other guys mistakes, and market Eiffel right!
Brett S.
http://www.mtjeff.com/~calvin/devhbook
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1997-08-29 0:00 The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Ell
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier [this message]
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Jeff Kotula
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-13 0:00 ` Mark S. Hathaway
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Des Kenny
1997-10-28 0:00 ` John English
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Des Kenny
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Darren New
1997-09-02 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` happens too often to call it historic W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-15 0:00 ` The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-09-17 0:00 Ell
1997-09-17 0:00 Ell
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-17 0:00 Ell
1997-09-15 0:00 Ell
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Doc
[not found] <97090916235363@psavax.pwfl.com>
1997-09-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-04 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-30 0:00 BruceMount
1997-08-29 0:00 Ell
[not found] <5tvvsj$lh2$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-27 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-27 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
[not found] ` <5u6ovi$5kb$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-25 0:00 Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-26 0:00 ` BruceMount
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
[not found] ` <JSA.97Aug28182029@alexandria.organon.com>
[not found] ` <3406C150.3EE5EE0E@stratasys.com>
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-02 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
[not found] ` <5u0nil$atg@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` not
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
[not found] ` <5u3o1n$hu5@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-26 0:00 ` Flavius.Vespasianus
[not found] ` <JSA.97Aug26153546@alexandria.organon.com>
[not found] ` <34034658.7DE14518@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
[not found] ` <3402FD4D.C196785B@brightwood.com>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-27 0:00 ` James P. White
[not found] ` <34047A7D.62319AC4@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Flavius.Vespasianus
1997-08-28 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Mike Coffin
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Charles Ditzel
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <01bcb38a$8ddc1200$1c10d30a@ntwneil>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Lee Webber
1997-08-28 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-28 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Bert Bril
1997-08-31 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Mike Charlton
[not found] ` <N.19970829.uput@sisyphus.demon.co.uk>
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Mike Charlton
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Dave Sparks
[not found] ` <EFn8CI.D9p@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
[not found] ` <EFonoz.AFC@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Arthur Nelson
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Lee Webber
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