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From: Bertrand Meyer <Bertrand.Meyer@eiffel.com>
Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake)
Date: 1997/08/27
Date: 1997-08-27T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34048653.63DECDAD@eiffel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34047A7D.62319AC4@eiffel.com


James P. White wrote:
 
[Quoting me]
> > It's really fascinating to read this again a month later,
> > with the recent announcements -- widely reported by the
> > press -- that Corel is dropping its Java strategy altogether.
> >
> > So much for the showcase success of the century...

[James P. White]

> As I am sure you will hear, those reports were entirely inaccurate.

The Toronto Globe and Mail wrote that Corel was "ditching"
Java efforts. This has been criticized on some newsgroups
as being exaggerated. But here is the report from Computer
Reseller News in Techwire (see
http://192.215.107.71/wire/news/aug/0817corel.html
for the full text):

        OTTAWA -- Corel has rethought its Java strategy, 
        according to sources briefed by the company.

        Now, the plan is to put the bulk of application
        logic on servers, which would then
        serve up what's needed to the client, whether that client
        is a PC or a Network Computer, said Amy Wohl, president
        of Wohl Associates, a Narberth, Pa., researcher.

        Previously, the company was rewriting its bread-and-butter
        drawing and productivity applications in Java. But that
        effort has been delayed significantly.

        Corel now plans to use home-grown technology, code-named
        Remagen [...]
        
        There still will be a lower-end Java suite for NCs due in
        October, Wohl noted, but the thrust has shifted considerably
        to the enterprise.

The word "altogether" in "Dropping its Java strategy altogether"
was based on the initial press reports and may turn out to be too
strong. The jury is still out as to how "altogether" the drop is,
although in the software business "delayed significantly" is often a
euphemism for something more fatal. The point of my note (not a flame,
just a reporting of fact) stands: that the great showcase of Java
triumph, reported everywhere including in these newsgroups, was
perhaps advertized a bit prematurely.

See also: http://www4.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_799.html.

-- 
Bertrand Meyer, President, ISE Inc.
ISE Building, 2nd floor, 270 Storke Road, Goleta CA 93117
805-685-1006, fax 805-685-6869, <Bertrand.Meyer@eiffel.com>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-08-27  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-08-25  0:00 The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-26  0:00 ` Flavius.Vespasianus
1997-08-26  0:00 ` BruceMount
     [not found]   ` <5u0nil$atg@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28  0:00     ` not
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
     [not found]       ` <5u3o1n$hu5@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28  0:00         ` Nick Leaton
1997-09-15  0:00       ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16  0:00         ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Brett J. Stonier
     [not found]     ` <JSA.97Aug28182029@alexandria.organon.com>
     [not found]       ` <3406C150.3EE5EE0E@stratasys.com>
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00           ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29  0:00             ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-02  0:00             ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-15  0:00       ` Tim Ottinger
1997-08-27  0:00 ` James P. White
     [not found]   ` <34047A7D.62319AC4@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27  0:00     ` Bertrand Meyer [this message]
1997-08-27  0:00       ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-08-28  0:00         ` Flavius.Vespasianus
1997-08-28  0:00       ` James P. White
1997-08-28  0:00       ` Mike Coffin
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00           ` James P. White
1997-08-31  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Dennis Weldy
1997-09-03  0:00         ` Charles Ditzel
1997-08-27  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <01bcb38a$8ddc1200$1c10d30a@ntwneil>
1997-08-28  0:00     ` James P. White
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Lee Webber
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-28  0:00       ` James P. White
     [not found]         ` <EFnKuI.4rI@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29  0:00           ` Memory management techniques -- was Re: The great Java showcase Jon S Anthony
1997-08-30  0:00         ` The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Bert Bril
1997-08-31  0:00           ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Lee Webber
     [not found]       ` <EFn8CI.D9p@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Peter Hermann
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby
     [not found]           ` <EFonoz.AFC@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29  0:00             ` Samuel Mize
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Arthur Nelson
1997-08-29  0:00           ` Patrick Doyle
1997-09-01  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00           ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-31  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-01  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02  0:00               ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-06  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Mike Charlton
     [not found]         ` <N.19970829.uput@sisyphus.demon.co.uk>
1997-09-02  0:00           ` Mike Charlton
1997-09-03  0:00             ` Dave Sparks
     [not found] ` <JSA.97Aug26153546@alexandria.organon.com>
     [not found]   ` <34034658.7DE14518@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found] ` <3402FD4D.C196785B@brightwood.com>
1997-08-27  0:00   ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
     [not found] <5tvvsj$lh2$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-08-27  0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-27  0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-27  0:00   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28  0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00     ` James P. White
1997-08-29  0:00   ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-29  0:00     ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-29  0:00     ` Dennis Weldy
     [not found]     ` <5u6ovi$5kb$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-09-01  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-08-29  0:00 Ell
1997-08-29  0:00 Ell
1997-08-29  0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-29  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00   ` Jay Martin
1997-08-30  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-08-30  0:00   ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-30  0:00     ` Jay Martin
1997-09-01  0:00   ` Paul Johnson
1997-09-01  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Martin Tom Brown
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Jeff Kotula
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-09-03  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1997-09-05  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
1997-09-08  0:00       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-13  0:00         ` Mark S. Hathaway
1997-09-16  0:00           ` Des  Kenny
1997-10-28  0:00           ` John English
1997-09-16  0:00         ` Des  Kenny
1997-09-16  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05  0:00     ` Darren New
1997-09-02  0:00   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-05  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-15  0:00   ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-18  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00 BruceMount
1997-09-04  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
     [not found] <97090916235363@psavax.pwfl.com>
1997-09-11  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-15  0:00 Ell
1997-09-16  0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-17  0:00 ` Doc
1997-09-17  0:00 Ell
1997-09-16  0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-09-17  0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-17  0:00 ` Robert B. Love 
1997-09-17  0:00 Ell
1997-09-17  0:00 Ell
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