Re: Critique of Ariane 5 paper (finally!)

[Ken Garlington <kennieg@flash.net>]

Bertrand Meyer wrote:
> 
> Ken Garlington wrote:
> 
> > Bertrand Meyer wrote:
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> >>>> The [Jezequel-Meyer IEEE Computer] article did not mention
> >>>> any software product.
> 
> > Except Eiffel, of course. It went on to contrast Eiffel with other
> > competing product lines.
> 
> Absolutely wrong.  Eiffel is not a product.
> It is a non-proprietary method and language for the
> construction of quality software.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on whether Eiffel is
_also_ a product line.

"Personal Eiffel for Windows: $69.95 (electronic version)."
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from the page titled:

"Prices for ISE Eiffel products and support"
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on the server

http://www.eiffel.com.
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> The article did not mention any products. It was about
> principles of software design and how they can help avoid
> Ariane-like catastrophes.

I believe you. However, as I tried to explain in very
precise terms, many people were left with the _impression_
that it was also a sales brochure. With a slightly different
approach, you could have still made your point wihtout making
such an impression.

I suppose you could say that impressions are irrelevant.
However, this is certainly an odd position to take for
someone advocating a method and language, not to mention
someone in the business world.

Overall, I'd have to say your responses to legitimate questions
are so emotional and acidic as to make it difficult for
some people to take you seriously. Given that these are the
same practitioners you're trying to convince...

> 
> -- BM