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From: Ejon <ejones7@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Is Ada likely to survive ?
Date: 1997/08/09
Date: 1997-08-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33ECDD08.3724@ibm.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5s6q6b$f3$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au


robin wrote:
> 
>         dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> 
>         >robin says
> 
>         >>You'll find those attributes in PL/I, which has traditionally
>         >>been used for building large systems.  Probably the most
>         >>widely-known of these projects is the Multics system.>>
> 
>         >Surely you can do better than that for an examle. TO contest people's
>         >(erroneous) view that a language is dead, it is not helpful to point
>         >to a system that was itself pretty much a failure, and which is most
>         >certainly itself dead now.
> 
> Ever been kicked by a dead horse?
> 
> If PL/I is dead, then it's behaving in an uncharacteristic way.
> Much like: COBOL is dead, long live COBOL.
> 
> FYI, IBM has recently released PL/I on the Windows 95 and NT
> platforms.   Shortly before that, PL/I was released on AIX.
> 
> And the compiler is being ported to the mainframe.  So there's
> plenty of action on the PL/I front.
> 
> Some of the action is evident in PL/I job postings, and in
> new work.
> 
> But to the point.  The original poster was concerned that there
> might not be support for Ada in 10 years time.
> 
> I pointed out that IBM was behind developent and support of its
> PL/I compilers, with new offerings and enhancements in the
> past few years, that the support is ongoing, & that the
> language had been around for some 30 years.
> 
> PL/I has many of the features that the original poster
> considered important.
> 
> And IBM is not the only vendor . . . there's UniPrise, which
> has PL/I for Digital machines, and Liant for unix machines  ....

Just curious, but didn't Multics go on to be reincarnated
as "Unix"?




  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-08-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-07-18  0:00 Is Ada likely to survive ? safetran
1997-07-18  0:00 ` Stanley Allen
1997-07-19  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-28  0:00     ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-07-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-29  0:00         ` dcw
1997-07-30  0:00         ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-07-30  0:00       ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-07-31  0:00           ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-07-31  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-02  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-03  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-01  0:00           ` William Clodius
1997-08-01  0:00           ` William Clodius
     [not found]             ` <5s6ng4$rq7$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-07  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-11  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-08-11  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-31  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-01  0:00             ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-03  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-05  0:00                 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-19  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-20  0:00   ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-19  0:00 ` robin
1997-07-23  0:00   ` Valerio Bellizzomi
1997-08-01  0:00     ` robin
1997-08-02  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]         ` <5s6q6b$f3$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-09  0:00           ` Ejon [this message]
1997-08-10  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11  0:00             ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-17  0:00             ` robin
1997-08-17  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-22  0:00                 ` robin
     [not found]                   ` <5u3c69$5tj$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-28  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00                     ` robin
1997-09-08  0:00                       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-17  0:00                         ` robin
1997-07-23  0:00   ` Adam Beneschan
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Nasser
1997-07-20  0:00 ` Odo Wolbers
1997-07-21  0:00 ` Anonymous
1997-07-21  0:00 ` safetran
1997-07-22  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Nasser
1997-07-23  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-27  0:00       ` jorgie
1997-07-28  0:00         ` Peter Hermann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-08-04  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-06  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-06  0:00   ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-06  0:00     ` rodney
1997-08-10  0:00   ` Fergus Henderson
1997-08-10  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1997-08-11  0:00     ` Jerry van Dijk
     [not found] ` <01bca387$42ffbce0$18a9f5cd@asip120>
1997-08-13  0:00   ` HARRY R. ERWIN
     [not found]     ` <3404215f.0@news.uni-ulm.de>
1997-08-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-13  0:00   ` Mark A Biggar
1997-08-07  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-10  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
1997-08-11  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11  0:00 ` John English
1997-08-14  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-16  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-17  0:00   ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-17  0:00     ` No Spam
1997-08-19  0:00       ` John English
1997-08-19  0:00     ` John English
1997-08-19  0:00     ` Mike Stark
1997-08-27  0:00       ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-19  0:00   ` John English
1997-08-24  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-26  0:00       ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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