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From: Andrew Semprebon <asemprebon@radcor.com>
Subject: Re: I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"!
Date: 1997/08/07
Date: 1997-08-07T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33EA0A6D.42E6@radcor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33E36594.416A@ibm.net


Ian Nelson wrote:
> 
> I kind of agree with this to some extent.  OOP will best mimmick the
> world as the human mind sees it, and this will always be good when it
> comes to producing applications.  OOP will probably change over time,
> possibly in major ways but the religion will be the same and they will
> still call it OOP.

Does anyone else find this (often pushed) view of OOP a bit ironic?
Some counter examples:

1.  Many developers have had difficulty in learning OOP, and Steve
McConnell (in his book "Rapid Development") even goes so far as to
say that OOP is too difficult for the average programmer to do.

2.  Not long ago there was a discussion in (I think) comp.object
as to whether use cases were OO.  The consenses seemed to be that
they were not, but were still very useful for communicating with
users who would not otherwise understand the results of 
object-oriented analysis.

I don't see the OO paradigm as any more natural than, say, mathematical
reasoning, and yet both are, IMHO, very useful when developing programs.
OO is good because it forces us to change the way we think, to think
more clearly, not because it mimics the way we normally think.





  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-08-07  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-07-11  0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11  0:00   ` robinsaj
1997-07-12  0:00 ` Ian Nelson
     [not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]     ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16  0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25  0:00     ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17  0:00   ` Walt Howard
     [not found]     ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Henrik Wist
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20  0:00         ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Joseph M. Saur
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
     [not found]   ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19  0:00     ` Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30  0:00     ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01  0:00           ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02  0:00               ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07  0:00                 ` Andrew Semprebon [this message]
1997-08-08  0:00                   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08  0:00                     ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11  0:00                       ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13  0:00                       ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09  0:00                 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04  0:00               ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
     [not found]                 ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09  0:00                   ` Heribert Slama
     [not found]               ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06  0:00                 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08  0:00                 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Sean Case
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Nick Payne
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Ian Nelson
1997-07-31  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
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