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From: "W. Wesley Groleau x4923" <wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com>
Subject: Re: I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"!
Date: 1997/08/04
Date: 1997-08-04T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33E61DE1.55E9@pseserv3.fw.hac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33e4d7ec.1596193@news.deltanet.com


>         I think [OOP] is the terminal paradigm. It is like the wheel.
> We're there. We've arrived at the proper [way to build software].
> We may make some minor adjustments in the future but the paradigm
> itself will be our [computing core] for hundreds, if not thousands
> of years. But that's just speculation of course.

Except for the words in brackets, people have said this for hundreds,
if not thousands, of years.

>         C and C++ are not high-fashion languages. C has had constant
> growth since it's creation. C++ looks to be the spearhead that is
> getting OOP accepted universally, despite it's problems. Sending
> someone out into the real world knowing Pascal instead of C is
> like sending a soldier into a battlefield with a BB Gun while
> everyone else has an M16.

More like sending a soldier out with hand-grenades while everyone 
else has 50-gallon drums of nitroglycerine or picric acid.  :-)

>         What I'm saying is, you can write a Prolog interpreter, a
> Smalltalk interpreter, a Fortan Compiler etc etc etc in C! But
> you can't do the reverse. This is because these higher level
> languages do not let you do certain things which are part and
> parcel of the very woop and warf of computer programming.

First you say OOP is the ultimate, and then you seem to say
the "woop and warf" [sic] are only in C ?  Do you need directions?
An excellent Ada compiler has been written in Ada.  A good (hearsay)
COBOL compiler has been written in COBOL.  Most FORTH systems are
written in FORTH.  What does that do to your argument?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-08-04  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-07-11  0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11  0:00   ` robinsaj
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-12  0:00 ` Ian Nelson
     [not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]     ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16  0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25  0:00     ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17  0:00   ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20  0:00         ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Joseph M. Saur
     [not found]     ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Henrik Wist
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Don Harrison
     [not found]   ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19  0:00     ` Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30  0:00     ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Ian Nelson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01  0:00           ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02  0:00               ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07  0:00                 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08  0:00                   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08  0:00                     ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11  0:00                       ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13  0:00                       ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09  0:00                 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04  0:00               ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923 [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09  0:00                   ` Heribert Slama
     [not found]               ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06  0:00                 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08  0:00                 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Nick Payne
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Sean Case
1997-07-31  0:00       ` Don Harrison
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