From: Ian Nelson <"Ian Nelson">
Subject: Re: Why I didn't like Eiffel
Date: 1997/08/02
Date: 1997-08-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <33E35DE9.18F1@ibm.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.SOL.3.95.970731101946.11527A-100000@charlie
Glenn Williamson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Brian Kimball wrote:
>
> > What IDE or compiler did you use? When?
>
> I used two different packages. The first was Unix based, I think it was
> called ISE Eiffel, v3.x.x. The main gripes with this package were :
>
> 1) It took nearly 30 minutes to compile a simple 'Hello World'!!!
> This was at a 'GooD TimE' too .... If the Uni computers were
> congested at any time, say, close to an assignment being due,
> then it may take twice as long.
>
> 2) The size of the executable on this particular system was
> enormous. 'Hello World' came in at over 3Mb!!! Thankfully, this
> problem was solved by SysProgs at the Uni midway thru semester.
>
> The second package I used was Windows Based. It was the commercial version
> of ISE Eiffel, which I ran on my PC at home, was far better. MY gripe with
> this package, was that it didnt leave me an executable, and it didnt come
> with any graphic libraries .... ( and I couldnt have been bothered going
> out looking for any! )
>
> Don't get me wrong, I dont hate Eiffel with a vengeance, I just found that
> the particular system I used didnt suit me at all ... I prefer getting
> down amongst it all in C or C++, rather than being constrained by Eiffel .
>
> M00z,
> Glenn
>
> P.S. I used it in the first semester of this year ....
On a sort of unrelated issue.. Does anyone know if anybody is writing an
Eiffel front-end for the Gnu compiler yet? It is on the to-do list but
I've not heard of any projects.
At the very least it would make the Ada vs. Eiffel debate a little more
entertaining if some of the Eiffel folks stepped up to the challenge.
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-07-11 0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11 0:00 ` robinsaj
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-12 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
[not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25 0:00 ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Walt Howard
[not found] ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Henrik Wist
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Joseph M. Saur
[not found] ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01 0:00 ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07 0:00 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13 0:00 ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
[not found] ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Heribert Slama
[not found] ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06 0:00 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08 0:00 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Sean Case
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Nick Payne
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Ian Nelson [this message]
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Don Harrison
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