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From: Ian Nelson <"Ian Nelson">
Subject: Re: Why I didn't like Eiffel
Date: 1997/08/02
Date: 1997-08-02T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33E35DE9.18F1@ibm.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.SOL.3.95.970731101946.11527A-100000@charlie


Glenn Williamson wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Brian Kimball wrote:
> 
> > What IDE or compiler did you use?  When?
> 
> I used two different packages. The first was Unix based, I think it was
> called ISE Eiffel, v3.x.x. The main gripes with this package were :
> 
>         1) It took nearly 30 minutes to compile a simple 'Hello World'!!!
>            This was at a 'GooD TimE' too .... If the Uni computers were
>            congested at any time, say, close to an assignment being due,
>            then it may take twice as long.
> 
>         2) The size of the executable on this particular system was
>            enormous. 'Hello World' came in at over 3Mb!!! Thankfully, this
>            problem was solved by SysProgs at the Uni midway thru semester.
> 
> The second package I used was Windows Based. It was the commercial version
> of ISE Eiffel, which I ran on my PC at home, was far better. MY gripe with
> this package, was that it didnt leave me an executable, and it didnt come
> with any graphic libraries .... ( and I couldnt have been bothered going
> out looking for any! )
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I dont hate Eiffel with a vengeance, I just found that
> the particular system I used didnt suit me at all ... I prefer getting
> down amongst it all in C or C++, rather than being constrained by Eiffel .
> 
>         M00z,
>                 Glenn
> 
> P.S. I used it in the first semester of this year ....


On a sort of unrelated issue.. Does anyone know if anybody is writing an
Eiffel front-end for the Gnu compiler yet?  It is on the to-do list but
I've not heard of any projects.

At the very least it would make the Ada vs. Eiffel debate a little more
entertaining if some of the Eiffel folks stepped up to the challenge.




  reply	other threads:[~1997-08-02  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-07-11  0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11  0:00   ` robinsaj
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-12  0:00 ` Ian Nelson
     [not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]     ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16  0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25  0:00     ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17  0:00   ` Walt Howard
     [not found]     ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Henrik Wist
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20  0:00         ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Joseph M. Saur
     [not found]   ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19  0:00     ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30  0:00     ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01  0:00           ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02  0:00               ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07  0:00                 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08  0:00                   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08  0:00                     ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11  0:00                       ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13  0:00                       ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09  0:00                 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04  0:00               ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
     [not found]                 ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09  0:00                   ` Heribert Slama
     [not found]               ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06  0:00                 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08  0:00                 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Sean Case
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Nick Payne
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Ian Nelson [this message]
1997-07-31  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Don Harrison
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