From: jorgie <jorgie@box.net.au>
Subject: Re: Is Ada likely to survive ?
Date: 1997/07/27
Date: 1997-07-27T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <33DB0E73.5FA0@box.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5r445r$8au@drn.zippo.com
Nasser wrote:
>
> In article <JSA.97Jul22150552@alexandria.organon.com>,
>
> >> Its just that if you hire someone and he has to learn a new language -
> >> well that is additional cost vs hiring someone who already knows it.
> >
> >Yes, it is easy to hire a C/C++/Java 1 day wonder. And cheaply too.
> >Someone who was flipping burgers a week before, got C/C++/Java for
> >dummies or C/C++/Java in 5 days and is, voila', now a programmer who
> >"knows" it.
> >
>
> I am not sure about the "cheap" part. Java programmers with less than one
> year exp. can ask for $80-$100/hr, and many get close to that. It is the latest
> fashion as you know, even though many might have no clue about design and
> software engineering, but no one cares, since the ones hiring most
> likely also have no clue.
>
> As far as the pay rate for C++ vs. Ada, I notice that C/C++ programmers
> make more than Ada programmers. you see, goverment and defense companies
> salaries (which is where Ada is used in the US at least) are lower
> than private/commerical compnaies.
>
> >
> >Here's my take: If you want to use Ada - use it. Don't worry about
> >whether it's going "to be around" or something. That's not an issue.
> >If you don't want to use it, don't.
> >
>
> Agree. good advice. one should not always follow the crowd, if we all
> did, then we'll probably be still cooking our food over a fire under
> open sky in some forest somewhere. (humm.. come to think of it, that does
> not sound that bad :)
>
I agree strongly with both ideas!
Jorgie
> Nasser
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1997-07-18 0:00 Is Ada likely to survive ? safetran
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Stanley Allen
1997-07-19 0:00 ` robin
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Valerio Bellizzomi
1997-08-01 0:00 ` robin
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <5s6q6b$f3$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Ejon
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-17 0:00 ` robin
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-22 0:00 ` robin
[not found] ` <5u3c69$5tj$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` robin
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-17 0:00 ` robin
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Nasser
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-28 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-29 0:00 ` dcw
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-07-30 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-07-31 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
1997-08-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
[not found] ` <5s6ng4$rq7$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-01 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-05 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Odo Wolbers
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Anonymous
1997-07-21 0:00 ` safetran
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Nasser
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-27 0:00 ` jorgie [this message]
1997-07-28 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
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1997-08-04 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-06 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-06 0:00 ` rodney
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
[not found] ` <01bca387$42ffbce0$18a9f5cd@asip120>
1997-08-13 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1997-08-13 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
[not found] ` <3404215f.0@news.uni-ulm.de>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-14 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-17 0:00 ` No Spam
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-26 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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