From: Richie Bielak <richieb@XYZZYcalfp.com>
Subject: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?
Date: 1997/07/11
Date: 1997-07-11T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <33C632F1.2D9E@XYZZYcalfp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33C61545.167EB0E7@tower.com
ivory@tower.com wrote:
>
> My friend's son is looking at colleges, and was startled to see
> that RIT appears to have a heavy focus on the language Eiffel for
> the first 2-3 years. He's using this as a black mark against the
> school. The thinking is that he'd rather be learning a 'real'
> language that has real-life value on the job market.
Hmm. When I went to college the "real-life" languages were:
JCL, BAL and COBOL.
>
> He's asked me for my opinion, and I'd have to say that I somewhat
> agree. I've never met an Eiffel programer, and don't see a lot of
> ads for them in the classifieds. Note: I'm not debating whether or
> not Eiffel is a good language; that's not the concern. The concern
> is whether or not the job market will see this as having been time
> well spent.
>
> So, what's the (reality based) counter argument?
You don't become a programmer by learning a single language.
You need to know many. Eiffel happens to be a good one
to start with as it will teach you important principles which
are independent of the language.
Besides by the time he graduates the "real-life" language will
most likely be different than what he chose to study. Someone
decided to concentrate on C++ four years ago, today is
scrambling to learn Java.
Learn the profession of programming, not a particular language.
The course of study should include many programming languages,
as well as literature, art, science and engineering.
...richie "Eiffel Programmer"
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1997-07-11 0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11 0:00 ` robinsaj
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Richie Bielak [this message]
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-12 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
[not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25 0:00 ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Walt Howard
[not found] ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Joseph M. Saur
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Henrik Wist
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Don Harrison
[not found] ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01 0:00 ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07 0:00 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13 0:00 ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
[not found] ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Heribert Slama
[not found] ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06 0:00 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08 0:00 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Nick Payne
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Sean Case
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Don Harrison
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