From: Wes Groleau <no.such.user@does.not.exist.com>
Subject: Re: what DOES the GPL really say?
Date: 1997/06/26
Date: 1997-06-26T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <33B2C30C.7EE@does.not.exist.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33B2ABA6.2A44C487@link.com
> I believe that he's saying that people on the net have reprimanded
> him (carped at him) for saying the GPL doesn't allow him to
> incorporate GPL'd source code. "Of course you can incorporate it,"
> they say, "you just have to follow the rules about distributing it."
That's what they should have said. Instead it's more like, "Of
course you can use it. You should actually read the GPL before
deciding what it says."
> However, his company refuses to distribute the sources for their
> product. So, since he can't distribute it appropriately, he says
> he can't incorporate it.
Almost. It's not so much trying to "hide" the source; it's more
preserving the right to hide it in the future :-)
I suspect they'd even be willing to tell the customer (they get
a copy of the source) "The files ..., ..., and ... are covered
by the GPL. The file ... is used by permission of UCB under the
terms in file .... All others are copyright by us as stated in
file headers." But GPL 2.b does not allow that, at least not if
"contain" means what I think it means.
RMS, FSF, GNU, whover, can restrict their code any way they want.
I don't fault them for promoting their goals. But as Samuel says:
> However, company decisions are constraints on what we engineers
> can do. ..... I can't incorporate
> GPL'd code. At least, I can't do so and still be doing the job
> they're paying me to do.
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1997-05-28 0:00 gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-05-29 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-05-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-07 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <m2vi3kpuay.fsf@devo.ridgenet.net>
1997-06-12 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Stephen Leake
1997-06-12 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-12 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-13 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-13 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Dale Pontius
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Andrew Lynch
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Dale Pontius
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-19 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Arthur Schwarz
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 CHARLET Arnaud
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Samuel Tardieu
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-16 0:00 ` Building gnat-3.10 from source (was: gnat-3.10) Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Pascal Obry
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-20 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-22 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-27 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-28 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-28 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 David Kastrup
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-07-03 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Joerg Rodemann
1997-07-03 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Daniel R Risacher
1997-07-04 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 David Kastrup
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Fergus Henderson
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 James Rogers
1997-07-03 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Philip Brashear
1997-07-08 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-10 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-07-11 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Corey Minyard
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-24 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Spam Hater
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-25 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Dale Stanbrough
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 James Rogers
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-25 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Paul D. Smith
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` GLADE and GPL (was: what DOES the GPL really say?) Roy T. Fielding
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-27 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Roy T. Fielding
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Stefan Monnier
1997-06-29 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <dewar.867556141@merv>
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Roy T. Fielding
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <dewar.867554947@merv>
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Roy T. Fielding
1997-06-26 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Samuel Mize
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` user
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` user
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Kai Henningsen
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau [this message]
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-27 0:00 ` kdp0101
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-26 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Olivier Galibert
[not found] ` <dewar.867554739@merv>
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Richard Watts
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Olivier Galibert
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Bill Gribble
1997-07-09 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
[not found] ` <5pmg6e$nai$1@Venus.mcs.net>
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-05 0:00 ` user
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
1997-07-07 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-07-06 0:00 ` user
1997-07-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-07-23 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-23 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-24 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-24 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-07-25 0:00 ` B.Stephens
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Joe Buck
1997-07-27 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-23 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1997-08-04 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-05 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-08-09 0:00 ` David Masterson
1997-08-11 0:00 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <dewar.870872644@merv>
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1997-08-12 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-13 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-08-13 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-15 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Thomas Koenig
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-20 0:00 ` Mike Stump
1997-08-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Thomas Koenig
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <5u11n0$emm@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Paul Lyon
1997-08-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-09-02 0:00 ` Hwa-Jin Bae
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1997-09-03 0:00 ` Hwa-Jin Bae
1997-09-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Ted Goldblatt
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Mark Wooding
1997-09-09 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-08-12 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
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1997-08-25 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
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1997-09-01 0:00 ` Craig Burley
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-09-06 0:00 ` Remy Card
1997-09-07 0:00 ` rosalia
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1997-06-30 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Scott Michel
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1997-07-02 0:00 ` Mark Atwood
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-07-06 0:00 ` Stefan Monnier
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-07-07 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
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1997-06-27 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Robert Dewar
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1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
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1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Joerg Rodemann
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